Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Brochure-type: General Information

Hi :)
Actually when you try to start writing a new database one of the first things Base asks is where 
the back-end is.  It assumes you will be using an external back-end.  This is actually a feature 
that makes Base FAR MORE powerful than Access.  With Access you really have to fight against it if 
you want it to use an external back-end.  it's a painful struggle that leads to further problems in 
the future and keeps breaking.  Base has no such trouble.  

By contrast it's really easy with Base and is even the default way of using Base.  If anything we 
should turn the sentence around and say something like
"Base can also be used with an internal back-end making it a single file"
but it's difficult to avoid giving people the impression that Access is more powerful than Base 
when in fact it isn't.  

Forget trying to sell Base to people that want an Access clone.  Why not aim higher at people that 
want to bring their powerful MySql/MariaDB or Postgresql data into office documents.  Or aim at 
people that are tired of sluggish confusion from  Access when all they want is a little address 
book.  Or both.  Base is extremely scalable.  Access is not.   Access has trouble if more than 1 
person wants to read/write data to it at the same time.  Base has no such trouble.  


The question, again, is how to sell on the strengths of LibreOffice 
rather than trying to deny the weaknesses?  The strength in this case is
 that it's MUCH easier to get Base to connect to powerful or "tiny but 
extremely fast" back-ends.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  






> ________________________________
> From: Marc Paré <marc@marcpare.com>
> To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org 
> Sent: Thursday, 9 May 2013, 21:49
> Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Brochure-type: General Information
>
>
> Sorry for getting back to this so late.
>
> Thanks for the input Italo. I'll change the text. I also like Tom's 
> version but I think without the "also" it sounds as if Base does not 
> come as an installed database. If we were to put "also" back in, then 
> the impression is that Base is an installed database but could also act 
> as a frontend to the databases you mention.
>
> How about if we had:
>
> "Base is a desktop database designed to meet the needs of most users. 
> It is a valuable and powerful asset to link to the other LibreOffice 
> applications.  Base can also be a good front-end to many 
> enterprise-class databases such as MySql/MariaDB or PostgreSQL."
>
> Would this sound better? I think with the "also" included it clarifies 
> what Base is all about, but, mentioning the MySql/MariaDB or PostgreSQL 
> also shows that it is extensible.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Marc
>
>
> Le 06/05/13 12:00 PM, Tom Davies a écrit :
> > Hi :)
> > +1
> > Perhaps remove "also" as Base is at it's strongest when used as a front-end.  It seems to be  
> > the default way of using Base and it's much easier to get Base to co-operate with that than it 
> > is with Access.  So, perhaps
> >
> >
> > Writer is a full-featured word processing application, which can also
> > work as a desktop publishing tool. It's simple enough to use for a quick memo, but powerful 
> > enough to create complete books with contents,
> > diagrams and indexes. You're free to concentrate on your message, while
> > Writer will make it look great.
> >
> > Base is a desktop database
> > designed to meet the needs of most users.  It is a valuable and powerful
> > asset to link to the other LibreOffice applications.  Base can  be a good front-end to many 
> > enterprise-class databases such as MySql/MariaDB or PostgreSQL.
> >
> >
> > Regards from
> >
> > Tom :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Italo Vignoli <italo.vignoli@gmail.com>
> > > To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
> > > Sent: Monday, 6 May 2013, 16:30
> > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Brochure-type: General Information
> > >
> > >
> > > Il 06/05/2013 17:18, Charles-H. Schulz ha scritto:
> > >
> > > > Italo?
> > >
> > > I would change slightly the Writer text and tone down the Base one.
> > >
> > > My proposal:
> > >
> > > Writer is a full-featured word processing application, which can also work as a desktop 
> > > publishing tool. It's simple enough to use for a quick memo, but powerful enough to create 
> > > complete books with contents, diagrams and indexes. You're free to concentrate on your message, 
> > > while Writer will make it look great.
> > >
> > > Base is a desktop database designed to meet the needs of most users. It is a valuable and 
> > > powerful asset to link to the other LibreOffice applications. Base can also be used as a 
> > > front-end to many enterprise-class databases.
> > >
> > > -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vignoli@gmail.com
> > > mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316436@messagenet.it
> > > skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vignoli@gmail.com
>
>
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