Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Brochure-type: General Information

Tom,
Base works fine for the many users who don't do anything more than dead simple stuff, so it's not a 
"horribly broken nightmare" for most people. Of course, for those affected, that's no doubt true. 

But give it a rest; by continually carrying on about it on the marketing list you accomplish 
nothing other than annoying people, most of whom can't solve the problem anyway.

Marc, I think your phrasing is good. The "also" definitely is appropriate and needed.

--Jean

On 10/05/2013, at 14:08, Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi :)
> Yes, i took "also" out because when used with the internal back-end Base is a horribly broken 
> nightmare.  It's only when used with an external back-end, such as an up-to-date untweaked 
> version of HsqlDB (rather than the ancient mangled one inside Base) or even better with MySql / 
> MariaDB or PostgreSQL or others that Base really becomes quite powerful.  
>
> If i was trying to sell a car i wouldn't start the sales-pitch by pointing out the flat wheels 
> and rattling exhaust-pipe!  
> Regards from 
> Tom :)  
>
>
> > ________________________________
> > From: Marc Paré <marc@marcpare.com>
> > To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org 
> > Sent: Thursday, 9 May 2013, 21:49
> > Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Brochure-type: General Information
> >
> >
> > Sorry for getting back to this so late.
> >
> > Thanks for the input Italo. I'll change the text. I also like Tom's 
> > version but I think without the "also" it sounds as if Base does not 
> > come as an installed database. If we were to put "also" back in, then 
> > the impression is that Base is an installed database but could also act 
> > as a frontend to the databases you mention.
> >
> > How about if we had:
> >
> > "Base is a desktop database designed to meet the needs of most users. 
> > It is a valuable and powerful asset to link to the other LibreOffice 
> > applications.  Base can also be a good front-end to many 
> > enterprise-class databases such as MySql/MariaDB or PostgreSQL."
> >
> > Would this sound better? I think with the "also" included it clarifies 
> > what Base is all about, but, mentioning the MySql/MariaDB or PostgreSQL 
> > also shows that it is extensible.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> > Le 06/05/13 12:00 PM, Tom Davies a écrit :
> > > Hi :)
> > > +1
> > > Perhaps remove "also" as Base is at it's strongest when used as a front-end.  It seems to be  
> > > the default way of using Base and it's much easier to get Base to co-operate with that than it 
> > > is with Access.  So, perhaps
> > >
> > >
> > > Writer is a full-featured word processing application, which can also
> > > work as a desktop publishing tool. It's simple enough to use for a quick memo, but powerful 
> > > enough to create complete books with contents,
> > > diagrams and indexes. You're free to concentrate on your message, while
> > > Writer will make it look great.
> > >
> > > Base is a desktop database
> > > designed to meet the needs of most users.  It is a valuable and powerful
> > > asset to link to the other LibreOffice applications.  Base can  be a good front-end to many 
> > > enterprise-class databases such as MySql/MariaDB or PostgreSQL.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards from
> > >
> > > Tom :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Italo Vignoli <italo.vignoli@gmail.com>
> > > > To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
> > > > Sent: Monday, 6 May 2013, 16:30
> > > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Brochure-type: General Information
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Il 06/05/2013 17:18, Charles-H. Schulz ha scritto:
> > > >
> > > > > Italo?
> > > >
> > > > I would change slightly the Writer text and tone down the Base one.
> > > >
> > > > My proposal:
> > > >
> > > > Writer is a full-featured word processing application, which can also work as a desktop 
> > > > publishing tool. It's simple enough to use for a quick memo, but powerful enough to create 
> > > > complete books with contents, diagrams and indexes. You're free to concentrate on your 
> > > > message, while Writer will make it look great.
> > > >
> > > > Base is a desktop database designed to meet the needs of most users. It is a valuable and 
> > > > powerful asset to link to the other LibreOffice applications. Base can also be used as a 
> > > > front-end to many enterprise-class databases.
> > > >
> > > > -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vignoli@gmail.com
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> >
> >
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