Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Cosmetic changes?

Khaled,

Sgrìobh Khaled Hosny na leanas 14/12/2014 aig 06:35:
> but the way people is complaining about them is what I'm worried about 
> as it shows that some localiser seem to have total disregard to things 
> that are intrinsic to the quality of any textual material, let alone 
> localisation. 
I resent that, I actually make a living off this and I'm very good at 
it. But perhaps it's just that a newsgroup as a medium can be somewhat 
deficient for human communication. Please let me therefore spell it out 
to you how I respect l10n and how l10n sometimes disrespects me (Sophie, 
keeping the good mood is hard - if it happens once, it's a mistake, no 
probs, don't do it again, let's move on. The second time, I scratch my 
head and ask 'weren't we here before'. The third time I feel like 
someone is taking the pish).

So... realy examples...

en-US
You opened %d files > You closed %d files
My head: ok, content change, let's fix it, no worries

en-US
[new string]
My head: ok cool, let's localize

en-US
%Y-%m-%d > %Y-%M-%D
gd-GB
%d-%m-%Y > %D-%M-%Y
My head: ok, maybe there is more space or something, let's get it localized

en-US
Opening text documents > Opening Text Documents
gd-GB
A' fosgladh sgrìobhainnean teacsa > A' fosgladh sgrìobhainnean teacsa
My head: Stop messing me around. My locale has strict rules about caps 
(only proper nouns are capped), you're making unnecessary work for me.

en-US
Opening ~text documents > Opening _text documents
gd-GB
A' fosgladh ~sgrìobhainnean teacsa > A' fosgladh _sgrìobhainnean teacsa
My head: Maybe there is a technical need for this change but can't you 
automate that? You're making unnecessary work for me, this is not l10n 
work because as a localizer I have no control over what marks a hotkey. 
This is a developer problem.

en-US
The "Terms and Conditions" > The “Terms and Conditions”
gd-GB
Na "teirmichean is cumhaichean" > Na "teirmichean is cumhaichean"
My head: Stop messing me around. The choice of formatted vs unformatted 
" is locale specific stuff and not governed by the en-US source. If a 
locale decides to go from unformatted to formatted, then that is decided 
by the locale (e.g. due to change in linguistic practice in the 
country). This is not governed by why en-US does or does not do. Case in 
point, some locales use «» so the question of en-US going " > ” is even 
more pointless.

en-US
The Terms\n\n and Conditions > The Terms\n\n and Conditions
My head: This is one of the most useless ways of making layout anyway 
because the localizer has to *guess* how much space there is. To make it 
worse, you now make me sit through the developers playing with \n or 
\n\n. Would be nice if someone just wrapped that automatically or gave 
me some guidance as to the space available.

en-US
The "Trems adn Cnditions" > The "Terms and Conditions"
gd-GB
Na "teirmichean is cumhaichean" > Na "teirmichean is cumhaichean"
My head: Ok so the person who texted this string was drunk. Happens. But 
why do *I* have to look at this again? The en-US typo does not change 
the content of the source so my translation is ok as it is, it's just a 
source typo being fixed. Argh.

THAT'S what we're moaning about...

Michael

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