Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [VI] Consistent theme for screenshots

And all this being said, LibreOffice may be developed by a "hacker culture," but it won't be used 
predominantly by one (at least, so is the hope). It's helpful to users of Microsoft Office to know 
that the interface will remain more or less constant no matter which computer they're using, which 
is why there was such an uproar when they switched to the Ribbon interface.

I don't think anyone's trying to stifle what LibreOffice can do by asking for a uniform theme, but 
we should take care that at the very least that screenshots look similar. Keep in mind that many of 
the mockups being proposed in the future involve a lot of icons, which can vary dramatically from 
theme to theme. Enough so, actually, that a screenshot could become entirely useless because what 
you see there isn't at all representative of what's on the screen in front of you.

And Marc, what I meant in my mail was not that NeoOffice is "better" or that LibreOffice needs to 
follow its footsteps, but rather that NeoOffice was an example of Mac users preferring that 
OpenOffice.org integrate better with the default system themes, and choosing it as a result. 

I think that the uniqueness coming from many distributions of Linux is a huge strength, but 
LibreOffice needs to be different (or shown differently) for functional reasons, not just for the 
sake of distinguishing it from the "corporate culture." Same goes with interface designs, for me-- 
but that's another thread. 
-- 
Christopher Lee
Executive Director
Champion Debate


On Thursday, July 7, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Marc Paré wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> Le 2011-07-07 05:43, David Nelson a écrit :
> > Hi Bernhard,
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Bernhard Dippold
> > <bernhard@familie-dippold.at (mailto:bernhard@familie-dippold.at)> wrote:
> > > Based on your comments in this thread I want to start a new thread for a
> > > vote on this topic.
> >
> > Well, I'm not too sure who this vote is supposed to include, nor on
> > whom and how it is supposed to be binding. In any case, I hope that
> > the contributors to the English docs team will be left to steer and
> > manage their own work, without anyone trying to impose ideas on them
> > "from the outside" (meaning from people who are not actively involved
> > in the actual work).
>
> I don't know if you were part of the prior discussions on this, but the 
> general consensus is that the Design team is usually consulted on 
> matters involving matters to do with graphic design which is why we are 
> holding the screenshot discussion on this list. The LibreOffice project 
> has many tentacles but some of these tentacles do need to cooperate with 
> other tentacles. The design team does a good job at keeping the 
> LibreOffice "public face" consistent.
>
> As to your reference again of "manage their own work, without anyone 
> trying to impose ideas on them > "from the outside" (meaning from people 
> who are not actively involved > in the actual work)." seems to be a 
> little negative when some of us who would like to contribute are asking 
> for a little more clarity in guidelines. It doesn't sound like people 
> would have a voice to express their opinions about a part of LibreOffice 
> where they would like to participate.
>
> You can't on one hand complain that there is not enough help to update 
> manuals and create more documentation and then complain when people ask 
> for clarity and better guidelines and infer that they are butting in 
> where they don't belong. If growth in contributors was a problem with 
> OOo and that it is again rearing its ugly head with LibreOffice, then 
> maybe there needs to be a little tweaking here and there to help new 
> people join and contribute.
>
> Or at least, is this not part of the project's hopes? Have more members 
> contribute?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Marc
>
>
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