Re: [libreoffice-design] ligatures in the logo [was: LibO logo]

Hi Johannes!

Sadly I can't see any image from the imageshack server. Could you add to the
wiki? I'm actually curious about your friend's proposal.

And with "sharpening filter" I mean this one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsharp_masking or another GIMP plugin to sharp
image's edges (IMO, the best is the Inverse Diffusion of GIMP's GMIC
plugin). They can be used to correct some kerning problems on the final
generated bitmaps.

~Paulo

Paulo José O. Amaro
Estudante de Ciência da Computação / UFSJ
Webdesigner / Linked E.J.
Blogueiro / CasaTwain.com



2011/3/1 Johannes Bausch <johannes.bausch@gmail.com>

> Hey Bernhard, all,
>
> sorry for not having repsonded so far. I'll try to answer more in time in
> future.
> I've added a third alternative where both f's have the same shape (note
> however, that I had to cap the first f so that the upper tip does not
> collide with the next f. If I had just copied the second one it would have
> looked really ugly - I'm sure you realize that, I just thought I should
> mention it). I think having the same curvature for both fs is indeed the
> way
> to go. I'll keep that in mind for the final design.
> Another thing I tried was to have equal spacing for all three letters -
> which does not look good. Bernhard, you said that the "i" is lighter than
> the "f" and therefore could be moved to the left - that is exactly what I
> have done in the previous examples, although it seems as if I forgot to
> mention it. I added a note on that on the wiki.
> So equal spacing: not good.
> Even spacing: good.
> The other thing I tried was to incorporate the suggestion of my friend (
> http://tinyurl.com/6x7
> Paulo José O. Amaro
> Estudante de Ciência da Computação / UFSJ
> Webdesigner / Linked E.J.
> Blogueiro / CasaTwain.com
>
>
> fyg7 <http://tinyurl.com/6x7fyg7>) which looked even worse than without
> any
> ligature.
>
> 2011/2/28 Bernhard Dippold <bernhard@familie-dippold.at>
>
> > It looks different from the original Vegur "f", but a slightly stronger
> > bending doesn't harm the general impression in my eyes.
> Since the Vegur font has no ligatures the ligatures will look different
> from
> the normal letters anyway. I try and match them as good as I can.
>
> Also, it seems to me that there are currently two open threads in the
> design
> list. I try to merge them ^^:
> 2011/3/1 Paulo José <pauloup@gmail.com>
> > *The Ligatures*: I think the ligatures in the "fi" letters was a very
> > welcome surprise. It's true they remember a serifed font, but I
> personally
> > love the way you put this serifed feeling on the LibO logo! I think it
> makes
> > the logo very particular and organic. I don't see any reason to don't mix
> > serif and sans-serif font when it's obviously look intentional and well
> > done.
> @Paulo: thanks for your positive comments. I know this is personal taste
> but
> since everyone told me it would look like a serifed font I stopped thinking
> about it. But now that you say you like it, I must say that I agree. All
> alternatives to the one I first did (just for reference:
> http://tinyurl.com/63ku3mw) look more nervous because there are more gaps
> and more open tips. Since I got so little (in terms of different people)
> feedback on this I'd like to ask others to give their opinion on the logos.
> Just a short "looks good/doesn't look good" would be really great. I'll
> also
> try and ask some friends of mine.
>
>
> > *Manual kerning*: Well, I'm not the right person to talk about it, but
> I'm
> > not sure if it's worth, since you can ever make use of a sharpening
> filter
> > for images. But the changes you've done on the letters shape are a great
> > improvement and make the things much... sexy [I can't find a better
> > adjective]. A note: It seems the "D" on Document has not a correct
> kerning,
> > but like I've said, it could be easily adjusted with a sharpening filter.
> What do you mean with "sharpening filter"?
>
> I agree that the sharp corners on the logo were a bad idea. Let's forget
> about them ^^.
>
> Thanks,
> Joey
>
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