Re: [libreoffice-design] ligatures in the logo

Hi Joey,

Sorry to disappoint after all your work but I took a poll at work and it was
unianimous... people liked the original logo better.  They thought it was
easier to read (f's are too close) and they thought the f connecting to the
i was out of place with the rest of the logo.

Vote: Original

Jaron





On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Johannes Bausch
<johannes.bausch@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hey,
>
> okay, I've tried to set up a voting page for us, see here:
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Joey/Ligatures
>
> <http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Joey/Ligatures>Do you all have
> write access to this page? I am not that experienced with wikis.
>
> @Bernhard: I've shifted the i more to the left. I've also redone the visual
> kerning for some of the letters; have a look at the scaled-down versions,
> it
> "should" look more even now.
>
> @all: It would be great if you voted on the wiki or here on the mailing
> list. Even if you disapprove of this poll it would be great to get some
> more
> opinions on this; so far it's only five people who talk about it.
>
> Thanks,
> Joey
>
> PS: I'll be away until Wednesday next week.
>
> 2011/3/2 Bernhard Dippold <bernhard@familie-dippold.at>
>
> > Hi Joey, all,
> >
> > replying to both of your mails, so please scroll down until the end...
> >
> > Johannes Bausch schrieb:
> >
> > > Hey,
> > >
> > > to gather some more opinions I thought it would be a good idea to have a
> > > poll somewhere else, so I asked people in a forum to cast their vote.
> > > Although I don't know whether this was a good idea (not really
> > > representative, game design forum, so people might be programmers) I
> > > thought
> > > you might be interested in the results:
> > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Poll.png
> >
> > It's impossible to see the different alternatives, because at my computer
> > the background is nearly black.
> >
> > Ii updated the image with a slightly lighter grey background, so you can
> > see the different alternatives, but keep the white text of the poll
> results.
> >  Apparently noone likes the
> > > too fancy ligatures. Most people also complained about the logo in
> > > general,
> > > so I tried to explain why this is (and remains, for now) the logo of
> LibO.
> > > If you're interested in the comments, too, I'll send you the link.
> > > So... in the next days I'll make some final drafts and put up a voting
> > > page.
> > > If you have some final ideas please tell me.
> >
> > People seem to like the last alternative (with "f" bow bent towards the
> "i"
> > dot) as much as the original.
> >
> > Even if this is far from being representative, I'd like to see a
> finalized
> > version of this proposal.
> >
> > Could you improve this by moving the "i" nearer to the "f"? I don't think
> > that equal spacing for the dot between "f" and "i" looks best...
> >
> > Perhaps a combination of your third an my proposal?
> >
> > > Greetings,
> > > Joey
> > >
> > > 2011/3/2 Johannes Bausch<johannes.bausch@gmail.com>
> > >
> > >  Hey Bernhard,
> > > > 2011/3/2 Bernhard Dippold<bernhard@familie-dippold.at>
> > > >
> > > > In your reply to my last mail I understood you in a way that you wanted
> > > > to
> > > >
> > > > > work on a new proposal.
> > > > >
> > > > >  I added a third alternative (which I don't like very much). The logos
> > > > on my
> > > > page are only drafts; if we decide on one of them, I'll spend more time
> > > > on
> > > > it. At the moment I don't have another idea how to deal with the
> ligature
> > > > -
> > > > do you? I'd be more than glad to try another one.
> > Like your poll members I like this proposal best, but it needs some more
> > tweaking (I mentioned above).
> >
> > I don't think that there are so many alternatives to modify the two "f"
> and
> > the "i", so I don't have any other reliable alternative in mind.
> >
> > > >  [...]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > But what we need to keep in mind: Changes being recognized by the
> average
> > > > > user / viewer will more likely be postponed until a new major or minor
> > > > > version
> > > > > than modifications leading "only" to a more balanced, professional and
> > > > > consistent visual impression.
> > > > >
> > > > >  +1, I agree.
> > In my eyes proposals (c) and (d) might fall in the "balanced" category,
> > while (a) and (b) would be more recognizable as modified details.
> >
> >  Who has the final word on that?
> > > >
> > The SC, but they probably support a decision by the Design Team.
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Bernhard
> >
> > --
> > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+help@libreoffice.org
> > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/
> > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
>
> --
> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+help@libreoffice.org
> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/
> *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***

-- 
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+help@libreoffice.org
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/
*** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***