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This topic should probably have a thread of its own. --Jean

On 15/05/2013, at 10:05, Jean Weber <jeanweber@gmail.com> wrote:

On 15/05/2013, at 7:54, Marc Paré <marc@marcpare.com> wrote:

As a point of discussion on the printing of .pdf's from .odt:

I was hoping to promote our .odt file format and hope that the people who download and print 
brochures would decide on their own to create the .pdf brochure should they see a need for doing 
so. This way, we would be assured that the person(s) would at least be using an ODF-compatible 
wordprocessor.

This is more of a philosophical view of posting our materials and less of practicality. Does it 
make it more difficult to print out our brochures? Well yes, if you consider that some may just 
download the .pdf version and go to print with Adobe Reader or another .pdf reader, and, not 
even bother having a version of LibreOffice on their system. But IMO, I would then rather see 
people use LibreOffice or another .odt compatible wordprocessor do the work. This will at least 
ensure that our product and format stand out as a good solid and professional working format 
from which to work. It would help in establishing the ODF standard as a gold standard in office 
formats.

We need to start displacing the .pdf format and we, the juggernaut that we are, are well placed 
to do this; there are really only 2 elephants in the room left and its LibreOffice and MSO.

We can't keep saying that the ODF standard is the best of office suite standards and then make 
use of the Adobe .pdf file to print our products. We are well placed to encourage/influence more 
printing houses to host LibreOffice solutions on their premises for printing purposes. The first 
question users should say to their printing houses is "Do you service/support LibreOffice ODF 
printing?" If the demand is there, the service will follow. By continuing to make use of .pdf 
formats, we are diminishing the demand of service for our own product.

We use LibreOffice in-house for our production work and we know it's strength as a serious work 
tool.

IMO, we should start making our influence felt where we can. This will also strengthen our 
product with groups who are considering adoption of our suite as they will see our resolve to 
make the ODF formats more of the office format standard of choice.

Marc

Two points:

I travel with an iPad. I can download and print a PDF using the iPad. I cannot (yet) run LO on my 
iPad. When LO is available on Android, that will help other tablet users -- but not us iPad 
users. I don't think we should let ideology get in the way of practicality.

Also, I am of the camp that says, don't give people an editable file (from any office suite or 
DTP program) unless you want them to be able to edit it. I would *never* give an editable file to 
a printer, if I can possibly avoid it, lest they accidentally change something.

--Jean

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