Re: [libreoffice-design] feedback on #91781

On 06/07/2015 10:06 PM, Italo Vignoli wrote:
> Hi Jay, I suppose you are not aware of the internal discussions based on
> those statistics, which were rejected by a large percentage of the
> community, to the point that there was a petition to stop the "so
> called" Renaissance Project.

Hi Italo,

Yes I have read articles on the backlash from the community about the 
various design concepts that the Renaissance Project was pursuing, but 
didnt read anything regarding a dispute of the user tracking statistics.

> In Orvieto, at the OOo Conference, there was an rather heated session
> about the statistics, and the entire Renaissance Project, and at the end
> the project was stopped because it was rather clear that the approach -
> top down - was not liked by the community.
>
> The promise, at the time, was to re-start the survey to obtain more
> accurate statistics (I cannot remember the discussion word by word as
> too much time and too many things have gone by). I suppose that some
> objections coming from Sophie reflect those objections from the community.

As I've been going through the statistics for a year now to improve the 
toolbars and context menus, I'm sure that the stats are quite accurate. 
Many of the toolbar changes that I've recently made, I had plans to make 
them before seeing the OOo stats and luckily after seeing the stats, it 
just provided clearer evidence that my previous assumptions were 
correct. But as previously stated, I do not solely rely on the OOo 
stats, I use my experience working in MS Word and customizing my toolbar 
there, my experience working with the QA team and viewing user submitted 
documents, feedback from QA members on how they customize their toolbars 
and which features they regularly use, as well as glimpses of the user 
stats that microsoft used when they created the ribbon UI.

> Unfortunately, the survey was never re-started because of the Oracle
> acquisition and the subsequent turmoil inside StarDivision and inside
> the community.

I look forward to the day when the TDF tender for usability metrics will 
be done, so we can have updated user stats to further improve 
libreoffice and validate my efforts.

Regards,
Jay

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