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On 06/07/2015 10:06 PM, Italo Vignoli wrote:
Hi Jay, I suppose you are not aware of the internal discussions based on
those statistics, which were rejected by a large percentage of the
community, to the point that there was a petition to stop the "so
called" Renaissance Project.

Hi Italo,

Yes I have read articles on the backlash from the community about the various design concepts that the Renaissance Project was pursuing, but didnt read anything regarding a dispute of the user tracking statistics.

In Orvieto, at the OOo Conference, there was an rather heated session
about the statistics, and the entire Renaissance Project, and at the end
the project was stopped because it was rather clear that the approach -
top down - was not liked by the community.

The promise, at the time, was to re-start the survey to obtain more
accurate statistics (I cannot remember the discussion word by word as
too much time and too many things have gone by). I suppose that some
objections coming from Sophie reflect those objections from the community.

As I've been going through the statistics for a year now to improve the toolbars and context menus, I'm sure that the stats are quite accurate. Many of the toolbar changes that I've recently made, I had plans to make them before seeing the OOo stats and luckily after seeing the stats, it just provided clearer evidence that my previous assumptions were correct. But as previously stated, I do not solely rely on the OOo stats, I use my experience working in MS Word and customizing my toolbar there, my experience working with the QA team and viewing user submitted documents, feedback from QA members on how they customize their toolbars and which features they regularly use, as well as glimpses of the user stats that microsoft used when they created the ribbon UI.

Unfortunately, the survey was never re-started because of the Oracle
acquisition and the subsequent turmoil inside StarDivision and inside
the community.

I look forward to the day when the TDF tender for usability metrics will be done, so we can have updated user stats to further improve libreoffice and validate my efforts.


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