[libreoffice-design] Validity of survey data (was: feedback on #91781)

Hallo,

sorry for the late reply but I don't want to leave this email undiscussed. 

I'm very surprised that two trolls (at least in the mentioned thread) should represent to whole 
community. Hopefully the decision to stop the project was done by competent people after the heated 
conference. Since the renaissance project consists of two parts, the registration of user data and 
the proposal of new GUI, I have no idea why the survey data shouldn't be valid or less accurate.

It is the best but not only source for our latest improvements. Jay's changes are based on 
discussions within the UX group and with experts/trainers, direct observations, data from other 
surveys, and last but not least it is based on our Human Interface Guideline. So we rather discuss 
how much we trust in old data - and hopefully in follow-up studies we will run in the future.

By the way: in general ribbons are accepted by younger people; there is a clear U-shaped relation. 
http://user-prompt.com/libreoffice-user-research-results-vol-4/

Cheers,
Heiko.

Am 07.06.2015 20:06:19, schrieb Italo Vignoli:
> On 07/06/15 19:07, Jay Philips wrote:
>
> > The software hasnt changed that dramatically since the OOo stats were
> > collected and user behaviour doesnt change that much over time as well.
> > I dont exclusively rely on the stats, as i do compare LO with its
> > various competitors (MSO, iWork, WPS, WordPerfect, Calligra,
> > Abiword/Gnumeric).
>
> Hi Jay, I suppose you are not aware of the internal discussions based on
> those statistics, which were rejected by a large percentage of the
> community, to the point that there was a petition to stop the "so
> called" Renaissance Project.
>
> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=21819
>
> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=21338
>
> In Orvieto, at the OOo Conference, there was an rather heated session
> about the statistics, and the entire Renaissance Project, and at the end
> the project was stopped because it was rather clear that the approach -
> top down - was not liked by the community.
>
> The promise, at the time, was to re-start the survey to obtain more
> accurate statistics (I cannot remember the discussion word by word as
> too much time and too many things have gone by). I suppose that some
> objections coming from Sophie reflect those objections from the community.
>
> Unfortunately, the survey was never re-started because of the Oracle
> acquisition and the subsequent turmoil inside StarDivision and inside
> the community.
>
> Best, Italo
>
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