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On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Sophie Gautier
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So it will be the end of the topic for me because you don't want to
understand: how will you recruit the hundred of contributors currently
taking care of the forums if they don't want to be force to use Drupal? Will
you tell them that you don't care about them, as you're don't care about
what I try to explain to you since weeks ?

We will never force anyone to do anything. In my mind, once the Drupal
development is complete and implemented then people will want to move
As I understand it, this is why the SC asked the website team to develop Drupal.
IMHO satellite groups are great and I would only encourage them to
continue. If however they wanted to be incorporated into the official
site we would provide assistance to migrate.

Yes, shame on me, you're right. My decision is to go for Drupal where needed
and to respect the community decision if they don't want to use Drupal as a
'all in one tool' because they are already doing a great work with another
tool and want to stay with it. Period.
So you can blame me, but I won't move from this position to battle for the
respect of the community. And again a tool if far from a community in my

There is no shame or blame intended. IMHO the decision from the SC was
a very good decision strategically, Silverstripe is going to provide
an excelent short term solution and Drupal is going to allow the
community to grow exponentially with more valuable contributions from
many more people.
It should be made clear to those contributing where the project is
going, this ensures that the work and project are aligned. Second
guessing SC decisions is not good for community morale and discourages

IMHO, The Drupal website development has been a great example of the
community creating the tool they want. There has been good
consultation with the main functional teams so far, and the
mini-project has encouraged some great debate.
A tool will never 'be' a community, but examples like Ubuntu or even
facebook show that well engineered tools helps to grow a community.

It is actually quite easy with the Graphmind Drupal module

just that you need an access to the web, that was what I mean. Not everybody
has a web access.

You don't need access to the web, You can create or edit the mind map
in Freemind.

Narayan Wrote:
--->>>Michael, here is your chance to prove that Drupal can provide
easy concept charts!  ;)

I am very busy with other things, but If you wanted to come up with a
structure proposal on the wiki for how this ties in with the proposed
brainstorm system I am sure we could work towards implementation.

Mike Wheatland

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