On 14/12/2010 08:49, Michael Wheatland wrote:
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Sophie Gautier
There is already forum that exist and they use phpBB technology for some or
may be most of them. Drew has the knowledge here.
For the French speaking one, it will be linked on our support page once the
final version is announced because the admins and moderators don't want to
provide supports on dev versions. I don't know if they have been asked, but
I'm not really sure they will accept to migrate on a Drupal tool when they
seems very happy with the technology they are currently using (and they have
choose). There might be also an issue on migrating the existing database,
not sure it's worth the cost.
There is a clear benefit of having a forum, as there are clearly a lot
of people who prefer not to use mailing lists.
Yes, of corse, this is why they already exists in several languages.
Again this community is not born yesterday and has already settled
several ways of work and support for their users. Did you already visit
the different forums in the Italian, German, Japanese,... language
projects? Have a look and ask you the question what should they change
their tool, what will that bring to the community?
I would suggest that deliberately separating a language team from the
main community is counter productive to one of the reasons that
LibreOffice was formed, to unite the community across all languages.
It is how our community works and has always work. Why again should you
tell people how they have to work, when they are already organized and
it has proven that it was the way to go for them. LibreOffice was
created to solve a governance issue, not a tool issue. A tool is not a
When the Drupal site has been created I am sure the French speaking
team can make the assessment, and if decided so, migration from phpBB
to Drupal is quite simple.
That will be to each language forum to choose what they want. Even
though they chose to stay with the tool they are use to, they still will
be part of the community.
And we are not going to duplicate the resources by settling different
tools to serve the same purpose.
Please again consider that this community exists since several years, is
organized, structured, used to work together. The tool is not the
community. So don't force them to use a tool if they don't want to,
don't force them to comply to a structure that do not speaks to their
language or their culture.
We are not all on the same model, we are not the Mozilla, the Ubuntu
community or the Gnome one. We have a 10 years story behind us, let us
build on this, not start again as if nothing has been done. Look what
happened the last week-end, how many languages have been updated by
their team, isn't it a very beautiful community working together with
I hope you understand my point and don't get it against your work or
Again it is very important that every body is assured that there is no
obligation for them to comply to a tool or another, it is not a matter
of tool, but a matter of work that has to be done to build a product and
its project. For that we need tools that's true, but if they are already
existent, used, etc, they should not be changed.
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