Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

Hi Graham,

On Oct 19, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Graham Lauder wrote:
> On Wednesday 20 Oct 2010 02:16:38 Benjamin Horst wrote:
> > On Oct 19, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Graham Lauder wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 19 Oct 2010 12:39:56 Keith Williams wrote:

> > Yes, I respect Christian, but I don't feel that he is giving this issue
> > sufficient balance. Having only installed Silverstripe once in a demo
> > instance is no substitute for real-world experience with a platform. You
> > may be disappointed in the half-complete Drupal Demo we've tried to set
> > up, but I and colleagues have implemented Drupal in dozens of real-world
> > sites for a vast array of clients, and it has stood up to the test.
>
> And please, don't think I don't rate your contribution over the years as 
> highly. :) and I thank you for giving time to the debate. 

Thank you. My only motivation here is to help build the best system I know how, while working 
within the community processes or best practices we have been developing.

> > > The kicker for me though is that at some point in any OSS project roles
> > > change or people get added to teams for this sort of admin.  The number
> > > of admins will expand quickly for all the various projects and the
> > > faster they are up to speed on any CMS, the better.  To me Silverstripe
> > > wins this hands down.
> >
> > I think quite differently here. There are far more people in the FLOSS
> > world familiar with Drupal, some of OOo's infrastructure has already been
> > in Drupal, and new people who have used CMSs in the past likely have
> > encountered Drupal. It's tested, it's robust, and it's widely known.
>
> Fair comment and I would agree that the Drupal community is extensive and 
> passionate, however my experience has shown in the past that the passion can 
> get in the way of practicality, however having said that, my thanks for your 
> reasoned debate to this point.

Passion without thorough analysis is definitely not the way to make a technical decision. However, 
I don't think we are faced with that situation here. :)

> My point was that people who are Drupal Geeks, while they may be out there, 
> are not always Office Suite Geeks like you and I, the people who will end up 
> administering this will invariably be the latter 
>
> However, my mind is always open and if evidence is shown to the contrary I'll 
> be happy to put my small weight behind it.
>
> I should probably point out here that the IIRC Daniel Carrera set up the 
> ingots site on Drupal.  http://www.theingots.org Ian Lynch could confirm or 
> correct that.

Another example of existing Drupal sites in the wide cosmos of OOo, LibO and related sites. 
(Viewing the page source confirms it's using Drupal.)

Once the site is configured, it will be easy enough to administer by technically-savvy people who 
may not be Drupal experts. Any Drupal experts can certainly take a reduced advisory role after 
launch, with no detriment to the project.

-Ben


Benjamin Horst
bhorst@mac.com
646-464-2314 (Eastern)
www.solidoffice.com


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