Re: [libreoffice-website] [SC] Decision about CMS

Just login to the site, you don't have admin rights, your just a user with
some perms.
admin/bhorst$1234 is password.


9, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Graham Lauder wrote:

> > > On Tuesday 19 Oct 2010 12:39:56 Keith Williams wrote:
> > > > My opinion...
> > > >
> > > > Basically the only person that seems to want silverstripe is
> Christian.
> > > > I think there are 3-4 people here that like Drupal in this group.
> > >
> > > Add one to Christians Group,
> > >
> > > I tried your demo and I also tried the Silverstripe demo.  The
> > > silverstripe interface is pretty intuitive I was changing permissions,
> > > adding users and groups in no time.  Excellent
> > >
> > > The Drupal Demo, I figured adding groups, couldn't figure how to manage
> > > users or permissions and managed to post content
> >
> > http://www.mywebclass.org/~bhorst/admin/user<http://www.mywebclass.org/%7Ebhorst/admin/user>
>
> Access denied for testuser login
>
> > > I did a comparison on Compare between Silverstripe and Drupal and while
> > > there were swings and roundabouts, the significant difference was that
> > > most of Drupals functionality seemed to come from addons or plugins and
> > > I couldn't see any easy way of installing said plugins..
> >
> > You would not be able to install modules in the demo, since they require
> > filesystem access. However, installed modules (many of which come with
> the
> > system by default and can be considered "core" in an ordinary sense) can
> > be enabled or disabled in the admin here:
> > http://www.mywebclass.org/~bhorst/admin/build/modules<http://www.mywebclass.org/%7Ebhorst/admin/build/modules>
>
> Access denied again
>
> > > On the strength of the above I would go with Silverstripe.
> > >
> > > However in addition to that:
> > >
> > > Christian has a long history with the project and that does give his
> > > opinion some gravitas especially given he will be responsible for the
> > > CMS in the end.
> >
> > Yes, I respect Christian, but I don't feel that he is giving this issue
> > sufficient balance. Having only installed Silverstripe once in a demo
> > instance is no substitute for real-world experience with a platform. You
> > may be disappointed in the half-complete Drupal Demo we've tried to set
> > up, but I and colleagues have implemented Drupal in dozens of real-world
> > sites for a vast array of clients, and it has stood up to the test.
>
> And please, don't think I don't rate your contribution over the years as
> highly. :) and I thank you for giving time to the debate.
>
> > > The kicker for me though is that at some point in any OSS project roles
> > > change or people get added to teams for this sort of admin.  The number
> > > of admins will expand quickly for all the various projects and the
> > > faster they are up to speed on any CMS, the better.  To me Silverstripe
> > > wins this hands down.
> >
> > I think quite differently here. There are far more people in the FLOSS
> > world familiar with Drupal, some of OOo's infrastructure has already been
> > in Drupal, and new people who have used CMSs in the past likely have
> > encountered Drupal. It's tested, it's robust, and it's widely known.
>
> Fair comment and I would agree that the Drupal community is extensive and
> passionate, however my experience has shown in the past that the passion
> can
> get in the way of practicality, however having said that, my thanks for
> your
> reasoned debate to this point.
>
> My point was that people who are Drupal Geeks, while they may be out there,
> are not always Office Suite Geeks like you and I, the people who will end
> up
> administering this will invariably be the latter
>
> However, my mind is always open and if evidence is shown to the contrary
> I'll
> be happy to put my small weight behind it.
>
> I should probably point out here that the IIRC Daniel Carrera set up the
> ingots site on Drupal.  http://www.theingots.org Ian Lynch could confirm
> or
> correct that.
>
> Cheers
> GL
>
>
>
> --
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>
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>
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> (International Grades in Open Technologies)
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