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On 01-10-12 11:57, Pertti Rönnberg wrote:
Dear Wolfgang & Jay,
A.    so in your opinion people - both young and old - not yet knowing
anything about computers, perhaps buying their first unit, are - not
only "IT-illiterate" but also "morons"

B.    so you agree that among these "IT-illiterate morons (= idiots)"
are bosses, persons in chief position (managers).
When responsible for their dept's/company's strategic and operative
effectiveness and economical result, these "IT-illiterate morons" decide
about the need of an IT-department -- and employ an IT-manager to that
department to take care of the company's IT-system, programs and
personnel included.
Are you not barking at a wrong tree - is it not this your IT-superior
you should bark at?
I take it obvious that neither of you can be in a manager position.

C.   Obviously you qualify yourselves as highly  "IT-literate" --
perhaps even  "non-morons".
Some weeks ago LibO invited people to take part to make LibO better.
Would it not be an good idea that you - instead of blaming others - took
the opportunity to practice your high quality IT-knowledge to the
benefit of LibO.
Best regards
Pertti Rönnberg

As a Dutch (now retired) manager of a small business in IT I must disagree. Yes, Jay and Wolfgang are not very polite but they surely are right. I won't call them "morons" or "idiots" but choosers for safety on false grounds. Don't forget a salesman in a computer-shop will never tell a person that he could use Open Source software when he can sell him buggy Microsoft software with a profit of > 30%. He will tell him that on his computer only certified Microsoft software will work correctly. You and I know its complete nonsense but an IT-illiterate layman - especially those that are afraid of everything technical - believes him. The same goes for managers with even less interest in technical matters and a willing ear for equals who sells him there stuff. It is not for nothing that governments (Peru, Germany and many others) demand the use of Open Source software instead of the use of closed source, dangerous and expensive software. Twenty years ago the hard- and software world was completely different and there Microsoft has made his largest impact using unlawful methods to make everybody believe their software was the only one to be used.A small governmental action contrary was when the European Committee forced Microsoft to pay a fine of > $ 500,000 and to remove Internet explorer as integral part of their OS. But the main objection against the activities of Microsoft remain valid: the disinformation of managers and decisional people on the fact that they have to pay yearly for service not delivered. Since 1981 when Microsoft began to SELL software the buyer owned the software. Now Microsoft want to steal the ownership from the buyer by stating that the software is not bought but leased. That is wrong. Software running on a remote system not owned by the buyer - and running only there - can be leased just as installed software on a leased system. In all other cases the software is owned. Moreover, when I buy a car and after a day my car is broken in due to an unreliable lock, I get all refunded. Tell that to Microsoft!!

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