Re: [libreoffice-users] MS problems

Dear Wolfgang,
I am in no way trying - not even in a a such position - to limit 
anyone's right to express one's opinions, but
>>    I wish you will give the same right to others -- we shall respect 
all others
>>    this list is meant to help LibO and its users - not to humiliate 
or calling names, nor to write irrelevant bullshit

So please, don't insinuate but say clearly what you mean - my english is 
not good enough to understand what you mean at all - nor expressions 
like  "snip".

Some posts ago you blamed company managers and called them "IT-illiteral 
morons" claiming that they do wrong decisions buying MS/MSO programs 
forcing the company's employees "who do the actual work" to be 
ineffective.  I replied that you are barking at a wrong tree -- that it 
is the IT stuff, the IT-managers and their knowledge you should blame.

Now confirm that by blaming that IT-people - hired as consultants or 
employed experts " by these "IT-illiteral moron" managers - to be too 
lazy and ignorant to listen to these workers "who do the actual work".
Can you please explain what you really mean - if you happen to know - 
and provided that it is of any use for this list.

Just blaming Microsoft and its programs is not productive, nor is it 
relevant - it is only negative.
If you have a good medicine how to make LibO better and more used it 
might be of interest if you tell us.

And I can assure you with about  25 years own experience that MSAccess - 
in practice - is not in any way a "pathological data shredder" -- no 
doubt has all the MS/MSO programs been good enough to beat WP, Lotus 
123, Symphony, etc. -- even still better than any open source programs.
My hope and intention with these posts of mine is that LibO should be 
enough better to beat MS/MSO as a market leader.
Regards
Pertti Rönnberg


On 6.10.2012 22:49, Wolfgang Keller wrote:
> > I think the market share of MSO has nothing to do with the users
> > being idiots or not. The 90% share is caused by 3 things
> *snip*
>
> > 2 - Not many people know about alternatives.
> That's what I call ignorance. Ignorance plus unwillingness to inform
> oneself to remedy that ignorance equals idiocy.
>
> I don't have anything against idiots, as long as they don't impose
> their idiocy onto me.
>
> > 3 - Many IT departments in companies choose MSO because it is easily
> > available and they consider the support as good.
> IT departments, just like "managers" "choose" (in fact, they don't
> choose at all) MS because it's not them who have to do the actual
> work, so they can't have a clue. And because they're too lazy and
> ignorant to get some input from the information workers who have to do
> the actual work.
>
> > Keep in mind that introduction of an alternative suit requires a lot
> > of testing in an IT department. The suit must be stable and keep
> > productivity high.
> With MS products, user productivity will be minimised compared to all
> available alternatives.
>   
> Sincerely,
>
> Wolfgang


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