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On 10/01/2012 05:57 AM, Pertti Rönnberg wrote:
Dear Wolfgang & Jay,
A.    so in your opinion people - both young and old - not yet knowing
anything about computers, perhaps buying their first unit, are - not
only "IT-illiterate" but also "morons"
IT - illiterate does not mean moron but sometimes IT - illiterate act
like morons when they make decisions not based on facts but hype.

B.    so you agree that among these "IT-illiterate morons (= idiots)"
are bosses, persons in chief position (managers).
When responsible for their dept's/company's strategic and operative
effectiveness and economical result, these "IT-illiterate morons"
decide about the need of an IT-department -- and employ an IT-manager
to that department to take care of the company's IT-system, programs
and personnel included.
Are you not barking at a wrong tree - is it not this your IT-superior
you should bark at?
I take it obvious that neither of you can be in a manager position.
I have been in management and have had bosses who being IT-illiterate
would be an improvement. One boss insisted that he make the decisions
about software, etc. and the other delegated the decision to those that
knew something about computers.

Both were small companies.

C.   Obviously you qualify yourselves as highly  "IT-literate" --
perhaps even  "non-morons".
Some weeks ago LibO invited people to take part to make LibO better.
Would it not be an good idea that you - instead of blaming others -
took the opportunity to practice your high quality IT-knowledge to the
benefit of LibO.
IT - literate, some what. My limits are coding; not particularly good at
it mostly because it has always been an ancillary job function.

The more I see and watch the more I see old methods dressed up as new
and hyped - SaaS, Cloud, etc. I remember dumb terminals on VAX computers
- essentially SaaS but called timesharing.  Cloud computing has been
around since the early days of networking; the only difference is who
owns the servers running the data center. Note, I am not oppose (they do
offer some benefits) either but detest the excessive hyping and bogus
Best regards
Pertti Rönnberg

On 30.9.2012 23:17, Jay Lozier wrote:
On 09/30/2012 03:31 PM, Wolfgang Keller wrote:

The point is not that there are plenty of hopelessly IT-illiterate
morons out there, the point is imho that it's exactly these
IT-illiterate morons who "decide" about what those people who have
to do
the actual work have to "work" with.
+1, In the US they are called "Pointy Haired Boss" of PHB


Jay Lozier

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