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Hi :)
That is a +1 to all points.  I think gold or blue or the orange suggested rather than red but that 
is a minor issue.  

I think that you might even get MORE people keen to test the new branch earlier in it's cycle 
because people often like to be ahead and it would make them less shy about exploring and reporting 
issues.  We might even find that people use that as a route into triage.  
Regards from
Tom :)  

--- On Fri, 19/10/12, Carlo Strata <> wrote:

From: Carlo Strata <>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation 
announces LibreOffice 3.6.2
To: "" <>
Cc: "" <>
Date: Friday, 19 October, 2012, 8:43

Hi Everyone,

I think we are all in the right way. :-)

The only thing to do is let people (users) to know - from the start! - that there are two versions.

In this way "someone with less computer skills" can directly choose either the conservative branch 
or fall back to it (and not to OpenOffice or something else...) if he initially choose the newer 
feature richer one.
"Someone with less computer skills" cannot imagine or suspect that there could be a conservative 
branch if you does not present to him immediately and clearly.

Some policies could be:
- [until 3.6.4] first order 3.5.7 "green circle" and second order 3.6.2 "orange circle";
- [since 3.6.4] first order 3.6.4 "green circle" and second order 3.5.7 "green (old) circle";
- [when 3.7.0 will be released] first order 3.6.6 "green circle" and second order 3.7.0 "orange 
(red) circle";
- and so on...

These are similar to the current "Release Notes" page or the "Pre-Releases" last and recent one...

That may be very useful to join our common efforts to develop, support, spread, ... LibreOffice in 
the World and not to frustrate or to nullify our at-Customer work!

If you want to reaches many people you must think to many needs: but don't worry many people in any 
case will be curios and always test the first releases from start making them better and better as 
soon as possible. Don't worry: you - we! - will not loose testers and suggesters any more!!!

Have a nice day,


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Il 04/10/2012 23.45, Cor Nouws ha scritto:

Tom Davies wrote (04-10-12 20:28)
Hi :) Seriously.  What is the reason for having 2 branches?

Ah well, who am I to say that you can't understand it. Though the way
this thread was started, does not show much (will for) understanding,
IMHO. But OK, brief...

- In each LibreOffice series, over the various minor releases,
hundreds of bugs are fixed.
Bugs that have their origin in the inherited OOo code (registered
alone there were many thousands). Bugs that have been introduced by
making new features. Bugs that have been introduced by improvements in
code, performance. Bugs that have become visible because other bugs
were fixed. Bugs from external reasons, bugs from ..
- What is a simple annoyance for the one user, someone knowing ways to
work around it in ample seconds, can be a serious bug for someone with
less computer skills.
- Simply having two series, allows people and (smaller) organisations
that can handle bugs (...) more easily, to use the newer versions and
benefit from the improvements and new features that it offers.
And it allows them to help with further improvements in that series of
LibreOffice, so that at a certain time it will be ready for more
conservative, more careful, users and organisations.

I tend to do nearly all my professional work (quotations,
presentations, reports, mailings ...) in beta's/ dailies / developer
builds. It's rare that that gives me too much trouble, or causes lost
of work. It does cause me spending time on trying reporting carefully
written bug-reports ;-)  But that's only me, and there's of course
many functions that I only touch seldom or not at all.


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