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Hi :)
Please give it a rest.  

I was just pointing out that 1 suggested name was the same name as a major political party.  
Accidentally calling things by names that have serious implications in certain places is something 
that we might be able to avoid unless we are not allowed to communicate with each other.  
Regards from
Tom :)  





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From: Charles-H. Schulz <charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org>
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Saturday, 20 October 2012, 11:45
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document 
Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2

Tom,

One very last time: please stop discussing politics and general opinions
that are fully unrelated to the purpose of this list. 

Thanks,

Charles.

Le samedi 20 octobre 2012 à 11:18 +0100, Tom Davies a écrit :
Hi :)
Hmm, with a capital C that has a very negative connotation in the country i am in.  


It's the name of the political party that is currently in power seemingly purely to drive this 
country into the dirt.  It's 2 years until we get to vote in the opposing party so that they can 
drive us down instead or we might keep the current lot in to see just how much more damage they 
can do.  [shrugs]


If we use "conservative" then it's bound to get capitalised at some point.  So, i think i would 
prefer using "Corporate" or something else.  


Regards from
Tom :)  





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From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P <webmaster@krackedpress.com>
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Friday, 19 October 2012, 12:39
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document 
Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2


I think calling the 3.5.x"previous" branch - i.e. 3.5.4 through 3.5.7 - 
the "conservative branch" and the current versions of the 3.6.x 
branch/line the "cutting edge branch".

That gets rid of any "more stable" or other terminology  that might be 
seen as a negative image for either branch/line.

I wonder if it would be possible to get that change made on the download 
pages.

We would have

3.6.2 - latest Cutting Edge branch version

3.5.7 - latest Conservative branch version

3.6.3 - latest Pre-release version

and later


3.6.4 - latest Cutting Edge branch version

3.5.7 - final Conservative 3.5 branch version

3.6.5 - latest Pre-release version

3.7.0 - latest Pre-release of the new branch



On 10/19/2012 03:59 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
+1
That is a +1 to all points.  I think gold or blue or the orange suggested rather than red but 
that is a minor issue.

I think that you might even get MORE people keen to test the new branch earlier in it's cycle 
because people often like to be ahead and it would make them less shy about exploring and 
reporting issues.  We might even find that people use that as a route into triage.
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Fri, 19/10/12, Carlo Strata <carlo.strata@tiscali.it> wrote:

From: Carlo Strata <carlo.strata@tiscali.it>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Stable? Seriously?? Fw: [tdf-announce] The Document 
Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.6.2
To: "marketing@global.libreoffice.org" <marketing@global.libreoffice.org>
Cc: "charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org" <charles.schulz@documentfoundation.org>
Date: Friday, 19 October, 2012, 8:43

Hi Everyone,

I think we are all in the right way. :-)

The only thing to do is let people (users) to know - from the start! - that there are two 
versions.

In this way "someone with less computer skills" can directly choose either the conservative 
branch or fall back to it (and not to OpenOffice or something else...) if he initially choose 
the newer feature richer one.
"Someone with less computer skills" cannot imagine or suspect that there could be a 
conservative branch if you does not present to him immediately and clearly.

Some policies could be:
- [until 3.6.4] first order 3.5.7 "green circle" and second order 3.6.2 "orange circle";
- [since 3.6.4] first order 3.6.4 "green circle" and second order 3.5.7 "green (old) circle";
- [when 3.7.0 will be released] first order 3.6.6 "green circle" and second order 3.7.0 
"orange (red) circle";
- and so on...

These are similar to the current "Release Notes" page or the "Pre-Releases" last and recent 
one...

That may be very useful to join our common efforts to develop, support, spread, ... 
LibreOffice in the World and not to frustrate or to nullify our at-Customer work!

If you want to reaches many people you must think to many needs: but don't worry many people 
in any case will be curios and always test the first releases from start making them better 
and better as soon as possible. Don't worry: you - we! - will not loose testers and 
suggesters any more!!!

Have a nice day,

Carlo

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Il 04/10/2012 23.45, Cor Nouws ha scritto:
Hi,

Tom Davies wrote (04-10-12 20:28)
Hi :) Seriously.  What is the reason for having 2 branches?
[...]
Ah well, who am I to say that you can't understand it. Though the way
this thread was started, does not show much (will for) understanding,
IMHO. But OK, brief...

- In each LibreOffice series, over the various minor releases,
hundreds of bugs are fixed.
Bugs that have their origin in the inherited OOo code (registered
alone there were many thousands). Bugs that have been introduced by
making new features. Bugs that have been introduced by improvements in
code, performance. Bugs that have become visible because other bugs
were fixed. Bugs from external reasons, bugs from ..
- What is a simple annoyance for the one user, someone knowing ways to
work around it in ample seconds, can be a serious bug for someone with
less computer skills.
- Simply having two series, allows people and (smaller) organisations
that can handle bugs (...) more easily, to use the newer versions and
benefit from the improvements and new features that it offers.
And it allows them to help with further improvements in that series of
LibreOffice, so that at a certain time it will be ready for more
conservative, more careful, users and organisations.

I tend to do nearly all my professional work (quotations,
presentations, reports, mailings ...) in beta's/ dailies / developer
builds. It's rare that that gives me too much trouble, or causes lost
of work. It does cause me spending time on trying reporting carefully
written bug-reports ;-)  But that's only me, and there's of course
many functions that I only touch seldom or not at all.

Cheers,


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