Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Fixing new spell out numbering styles in LibreOffice 6.1

2018-05-04 19:02 GMT+02:00 Sophie <gautier.sophie@gmail.com>:
> Hi László,
> Le 03/05/2018 à 18:57, Németh László a écrit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > LibreOffice 6.1 will support “spell out” numbering styles of OOXML (One,
> > Two...; First, Second..., 1st, 2nd...),
> > as you can see in the following screen cast (only English, French and
> > German examples):
> >
> >  https://youtu.be/c0j4Sjie8t4 <https://youtu.be/c0j4Sjie8t4>
> >
> > My questions to the native language speakers:
> >
> > 1. Are these numbers correct in your language?

For Galician it's OK too use cardinal number

Un, dous, tres
1, 2, 3

It's usual too the ordinal

Primeiro/a, Segundo/a, Terceiro/a
1º, 2º, 3º
1ª, 2ª, 3ª


> > You can check here, too: https://numbertext.github.io/
> > index.html#testimonials
>
> French has different numbering between fr-CH, fr-FR, fr-BE, fr-CA
> example: 'quatre-vingt-onze' in fr-FR is 'nonante et un' in fr-CH,
> fr-BE, fr-CA
> > 2. Do we need to change the default format etc. according to the normal
> > usage of your country/language variant?
> >
> > For example, in the recent implementation, British English and American
> > English differ with the “and”
> >
> > 101 -> “One hundred and one”: en-AU, en-GB, en-IE, en-NZ
> > 101 -> “One hundred one”: en-US etc.
>
> There is also a difference between fr-FR and the others:
> for example 21 should be written
> vingt et un in fr-FR,  vingt-et-un (with hyphens) in other French.
>
> > 3. Is it enough to support only a single gender in Spanish etc. languages
> > to cover common outline and page number usage in publishing?

For Galician, yes

Chapter One > Capítulo un
Section One > Sección un

Isn't incorrect "Sección unha" but isn't normal


> > Book/Part/Chapter/Section/Page/Paragraph One, or simply One (normal usage
> > in English outline numbering)
>
> Number is never alone and then there is a gender issue, because book and
> page have not the same gender for example.
>
> Ordinal number are used before noun (like Première partie for Part One,
> Premier chapitre for Chapter One). Cardinal number without noun are
> quiet never used. Cardinal number with noun are used too (mostly in books).
>
> > First Book/Part/Chapter/Section/Page/Paragraph (less common in English, but
> > default numbering styles cover this, too)

In Galician, isn't normal only the ordinal but cardinal number and noun.


First Book > Libro primeiro
First Page > Páxina primeira, Primeira páxina, (páx. 1ª), Páxina un (1)
First Section > Sección primeira (Sección 1ª ), Primeira sección (1ª
Sección) or Sección 1

> > Note: there is a plan to use similar spell out formats in currency and date
> > formats of Writer, typical in contracts and invoices in several
> > languages. These formats are only supported in Calc yet by the NUMBERTEXT
> > Calc extension (or also in Writer macros via the new
> > com.sun.star.linguistic2.NumberText
> > service).


Currency: only cardinal, only one gender
Date: only cardinal, only one gender


> Cheers
> Sophie
>
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