Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Fixing new spell out numbering styles in LibreOffice 6.1

On 03.05.2018 20:39, Krunose wrote:
> On 03.05.2018 18:57, Németh László wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > LibreOffice 6.1 will support “spell out” numbering styles of OOXML (One,
> > Two...; First, Second..., 1st, 2nd...),
> > as you can see in the following screen cast (only English, French and
> > German examples):
> >
> >   https://youtu.be/c0j4Sjie8t4 <https://youtu.be/c0j4Sjie8t4>
> >
> > My questions to the native language speakers:
> >
> > 1. Are these numbers correct in your language?
> >
> > You can check here, too: https://numbertext.github.io/
> > index.html#testimonials
> >
> > 2. Do we need to change the default format etc. according to the normal
> > usage of your country/language variant?
> >
> > For example, in the recent implementation, British English and American
> > English differ with the “and”
> >
> > 101 -> “One hundred and one”: en-AU, en-GB, en-IE, en-NZ
> > 101 -> “One hundred one”: en-US etc.
> >
> > 3. Is it enough to support only a single gender in Spanish etc. 
> > languages
> > to cover common outline and page number usage in publishing?
> >
> > Book/Part/Chapter/Section/Page/Paragraph One, or simply One (normal usage

Setting this ordering is tricky.

Book One -> Knjiga prva / Prva knjiga (femininum)
Part One -> Prvo poglavlje (neutrum) [Prvi dio (masculinum)]
Section One -> Prvi dio (masculinum)
Page One -> Prva stranica (less common Stranica prva) (femininum)
Paragraph One -> Prvi odlomak (less common Odlomak prvi) (masculinum)

Practically only ordinal numbers are used.

But if Book, part, section, page or paragraph is omited then is most 
common to use ordinal numbers in neutrum.

Most common is to use ordinal number with noun after it. Guess having 
cardinal numbers in Headings without noun that follows is not wrong but 
not really used.


Is it possible to extend Soros so regular expression matches nouns like 
Book/Part/Section/Page/Paragraph so output is preprepared regarding to that?

Kruno



> > in English outline numbering)
> > First Book/Part/Chapter/Section/Page/Paragraph (less common in 
> > English, but
> > default numbering styles cover this, too)
> >
> > Note: there is a plan to use similar spell out formats in currency 
> > and date
> > formats of Writer, typical in contracts and invoices in several
> > languages. These formats are only supported in Calc yet by the 
> > NUMBERTEXT
> > Calc extension (or also in Writer macros via the new
> > com.sun.star.linguistic2.NumberText
> > service).
> > Best regards,
> > László
> >
> > P.S: A recent question (comes from Rene Engelhard) for Hebrew 
> > contributors:
> >
> > Is the Hebrew correct in the next line of resource file of the 
> > Numbertext
> > Calc extension:
> >
> > <name lang="he">NUMBERTEXT() וMONEYTEXT() פונקציות גליון Calc</name>
>
> I'm thinking about this for last two days and have some concerns. 
> Chapters are spelled out like First, Second and so on, but Croatian 
> has three genders and masculinum should be used in Calc when turning 
> spelling out numbers, but in Writer - for chapter numbers - neutrum 
> makes more sense but I doubt default format support both.
>
> Current version of Croatian Numbertext is at
>
>     https://github.com/krunose/hr-numbertext
>
> and any advice would be much appreciated. Didn't include this to 
> Numbertext.org as decimal number should be done first, but I guess 
> this whole spell out thing might speed things up...
>
> Thanks,
> Kruno


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