Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Fixing new spell out numbering styles in LibreOffice 6.1

Hi, Cor,

Cor Nouws <oolst@nouenoff.nl> ezt írta (időpont: 2018. szept. 12., Sze,
22:43):

> Hi László,
>
> Németh László wrote on 03-05-18 18:57:
>
> > LibreOffice 6.1 will support “spell out” numbering styles of OOXML (One,
> > Two...; First, Second..., 1st, 2nd...),
> > as you can see in the following screen cast (only English, French and
> > German examples):
> >
> >  https://youtu.be/c0j4Sjie8t4 <https://youtu.be/c0j4Sjie8t4>
> >
> > My questions to the native language speakers:
> >
> > 1. Are these numbers correct in your language?
>
> LibreOffice Versie: 6.1.0.3
> Build ID: efb621ed25068d70781dc026f7e9c5187a4decd1
> CPU-threads: 4; Besturingssysteem: Linux 4.15; UI-render: standaard;
> VCL: gtk2;
> Locale: nl-NL (nl_NL.UTF-8); Calc: group threaded
>
> The numbering styles appear fine in the list 'Number'
> But the result in the document is broken/wrong.
> Such as Ordinal 1, Ordinal 2... and not 1e / eerste, 2e / tweede, etc.
>
> What is the status of this currently?


Missing data file installation was fixed on Windows, so version 6.1.1 will
work well on it, see
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118261.

But it's possible, this won't fix the problems of the TDF build on Linux.
That uses older GCC, unfortunately, without the requested C++11 regex
support, so it's possible, only LibreOffice versions packaged by the recent
Linux distributions will show "spell out" numbering correctly for a while.

Maybe it's worth to change the fall-back formats of ordinal and ordinal
indicator numbers to simple numbers, as in the case of the cardinal
numbers, to avoid to show "ordinal 1" or "ordinal-number 1" in TDF builds.

What is your opinion?

Best regards,
László



> Cheers,
> Cor
>
>
> > You can check here, too: https://numbertext.github.io/
> > index.html#testimonials
> >
> > 2. Do we need to change the default format etc. according to the normal
> > usage of your country/language variant?
> >
> > For example, in the recent implementation, British English and American
> > English differ with the “and”
> >
> > 101 -> “One hundred and one”: en-AU, en-GB, en-IE, en-NZ
> > 101 -> “One hundred one”: en-US etc.
> >
> > 3. Is it enough to support only a single gender in Spanish etc. languages
> > to cover common outline and page number usage in publishing?
> >
> > Book/Part/Chapter/Section/Page/Paragraph One, or simply One (normal usage
> > in English outline numbering)
> > First Book/Part/Chapter/Section/Page/Paragraph (less common in English,
> but
> > default numbering styles cover this, too)
> >
> > Note: there is a plan to use similar spell out formats in currency and
> date
> > formats of Writer, typical in contracts and invoices in several
> > languages. These formats are only supported in Calc yet by the NUMBERTEXT
> > Calc extension (or also in Writer macros via the new
> > com.sun.star.linguistic2.NumberText
> > service).
> >
> > Best regards,
> > László
> >
> > P.S: A recent question (comes from Rene Engelhard) for Hebrew
> contributors:
> > Is the Hebrew correct in the next line of resource file of the Numbertext
> > Calc extension:
> >
> > <name lang="he">NUMBERTEXT() וMONEYTEXT() פונקציות גליון Calc</name>
>
>
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