Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Fixing new spell out numbering styles in LibreOffice 6.1

Hi László,
Le 03/05/2018 à 18:57, Németh László a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> LibreOffice 6.1 will support “spell out” numbering styles of OOXML (One,
> Two...; First, Second..., 1st, 2nd...),
> as you can see in the following screen cast (only English, French and
> German examples):
>
>  https://youtu.be/c0j4Sjie8t4 <https://youtu.be/c0j4Sjie8t4>
>
> My questions to the native language speakers:
>
> 1. Are these numbers correct in your language?
>
> You can check here, too: https://numbertext.github.io/
> index.html#testimonials

French has different numbering between fr-CH, fr-FR, fr-BE, fr-CA
example: 'quatre-vingt-onze' in fr-FR is 'nonante et un' in fr-CH,
fr-BE, fr-CA
> 2. Do we need to change the default format etc. according to the normal
> usage of your country/language variant?
>
> For example, in the recent implementation, British English and American
> English differ with the “and”
>
> 101 -> “One hundred and one”: en-AU, en-GB, en-IE, en-NZ
> 101 -> “One hundred one”: en-US etc.

There is also a difference between fr-FR and the others:
for example 21 should be written
vingt et un in fr-FR,  vingt-et-un (with hyphens) in other French.

> 3. Is it enough to support only a single gender in Spanish etc. languages
> to cover common outline and page number usage in publishing?
>
> Book/Part/Chapter/Section/Page/Paragraph One, or simply One (normal usage
> in English outline numbering)

Number is never alone and then there is a gender issue, because book and
page have not the same gender for example.

Ordinal number are used before noun (like Première partie for Part One,
Premier chapitre for Chapter One). Cardinal number without noun are
quiet never used. Cardinal number with noun are used too (mostly in books).

> First Book/Part/Chapter/Section/Page/Paragraph (less common in English, but
> default numbering styles cover this, too)
>
> Note: there is a plan to use similar spell out formats in currency and date
> formats of Writer, typical in contracts and invoices in several
> languages. These formats are only supported in Calc yet by the NUMBERTEXT
> Calc extension (or also in Writer macros via the new
> com.sun.star.linguistic2.NumberText
> service).

Cheers
Sophie

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