Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Amending and enhancing the help files

Hi Kendy

There is a 4th option. I just checked on master that each *.ui dialog
widget has a tooltip entry that can be filled/edited inside Glade. The
tooltip shows upon hovering the widget.

So the <ahelp></ahelp> content can be moved inside the *.ui  and thus
land in the Pootle UI project.

I must admit that it will be a extenuous job to move the <ahelp> entries
to the ui dialogs, if done manually and without some sorting per
module/dialog.

Olivier

Em 02-07-2014 12:24, Jan Holesovsky escreveu:
> Hi Sophie, Stanislav,
>
> Sophie píše v St 02. 07. 2014 v 16:27 +0200:
>
> > > I would add one more point: currently, a lot of extended tooltips (maybe
> > > most of them) are directly part of the help text. Therefore, if we excluded
> > > the tips, we would have strings doubled, once in help and once in tips -
> > > and it makes no sense to manage and translate them separately.
> >
> > but they are between tags <ahelp>the extended tooltip</ahelp>, so
> > extracted them will remove them from the help, and will not duplicate them.
>
> Stanislav actually has a very good point here; this is something that we
> have take into account when doing this, and I forgot about this.  I mean
> - even when the extended tooltips are enclosed in the <ahelp> tags, they
> are still visible in the help text too; so we cannot just remove them
> from there.
>
> So there are 3 possible solutions for this that I can see [but maybe
> Markus sees even another ;-)]:
>
> 1) Actually keep the extended tooltips as part of the help, tag them
>    there some way (using a wiki template, or a simple extension) and
>    only extract that to separate files that would be shipped
>    accordingly.  That means, even the extended tooltips would be
>    translated using the mediawiki Translate extension.
>
> 2) Separate them, but create a wiki extension that would be able to
>    obtain the extended tooltips source + translation from the Pootle.
>
> 3) Import the translations once, and just let them diverge.
>
> I guess 3) is definitely not the way to go ;-)
>
> I believe 1) is the easiest from the development point of view, and I
> think also most consistent for translation - as you won't have to sync
> between 2 tools to get the help completely translated.  But now I am not
> completely sure how that fits the Markus' current tooling that he has
> already prototyped - Markus, can we translate even the extended tooltips
> in the Translate extension?  Does that fit you?
>
> All the best,
> Kendy

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