Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Fwd: Re: issue 67093: mix between Title and Header in various l10n

Hi :)
I like the idea of a veto but only if it's used for when a particular language has had it's 
translations broken or corrupted in some way.  Obviously the example of "French" was a bit daft 
because the French translation is always excellent.  However, it's difficult to see a good example 
of when a veto might be needed or might have been good.  You always seem to fix any problems.  
Perhaps having a formal veto option "written up" as a rule might encourage the very problem it's 
trying to forestall?
Regards from
Tom :)  





> ________________________________
> From: Sophie <gautier.sophie@gmail.com>
> To: Martin Srebotnjak <miles@filmsi.net> 
> Cc: l10n@global.libreoffice.org 
> Sent: Monday, 22 July 2013, 21:56
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Fwd: Re: issue 67093: mix between Title and Header in various l10n
>
>
> Le 22/07/2013 22:26, Martin Srebotnjak a écrit :
> > I do believe that l10n language leaders should have a right to veto
> > the release in certain language (i.e. yes, you can have 4.1.0, but
> > without French packages etc.).
>
> Yes I agree with you
>
> > So the first release gets released, but no damage is made to a certain
> > language community.
>
> Well, I don't like it in fact, I want my language to be part of the 
> release party ;) So I prefer we be all together to release our version.
>
> Kind regards
> Sophie
> > Lp, m.
> >
> > 2013/7/22 Sophie <gautier.sophie@gmail.com>:
> > > Hi all,
> > > So here is the answer coming from Christian, it seems that lot of us are
> > > affected by this bug. I hope we will have a rc4 where we will be able to
> > > have it corrected, but I'm not sure however it's important enough to stop a
> > > release. Anyway, please fix for translation asap as it's corrupting
> > > documents, the sooner it's fixed, the better. Even if it doesn't make it in
> > > 4.1.0 (and it's not a production version), 4.1.1 is next month. What I
> > > really don't like is the poor quality it renders for our translation.
> > > Kind regards
> > > Sophie
> > > -------- Message original --------
> > > Sujet: Re: issue 67093: mix between Title and Header in various l10n
> > > Date : Mon, 22 Jul 2013 21:39:25 +0200
> > > De : Christian Lohmaier <lohmaier+libreoffice@googlemail.com>
> > > Pour : Sophie <gautier.sophie@gmail.com>
> > > Copie à : libreoffice-dev <libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org>
> > >
> > > Hi Sophie, *,
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Sophie <gautier.sophie@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I've seen this patch
> > > > https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/4994
> > > >
> > > > correcting this issue for French
> > > > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67093
> > > >
> > > > But much more locale than French seems to be affected from the tests made
> > > > by
> > > > the FR team (PT, RU, IT, SP, CN...)
> > >
> > >
> > > I did some grepping and applied some old translations from the time of
> > > the 4.1 branch where the translations did differ between the two.
> > >
> > > (13 languages) - but still 23 remain with the problem.
> > >
> > > > The issue here is that data are lost because the style structure is
> > > > modified.
> > > > Has it been modified also for the other languages, or should I send a head
> > > > up on the l10n list?
> > >
> > >
> > > after the fix for french and https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/5038/
> > > , the following languages still have the problem:
> > >
> > > egrep -A3 "(STR_POOLCOLL_HEADLINE_BASE|STR_POOLCOLL_DOC_TITEL)"
> > > */sw/source/ui/utlui.po |grep msgstr | uniq -d
> > > be/sw/source/ui/utlui.po-msgstr "Загаловак"
> > > bn-IN/sw/source/ui/utlui.po-msgstr "শিরোনাম"
> > > bn/sw/source/ui/utlui.po-msgstr "শিরোনাম"
> > > bo/sw/source/ui/utlui.po-msgstr "ཁ་བྱང་།"
> > > bs/sw/source/ui/utlui.po-msgstr "Naslov"
> > > hi/sw/source/ui/utlui.po-msgstr "शीर्षक"
> > > hr/sw/source/ui/utlui.po-msgstr "Naslov"
> > > id/sw/source/ui/utlui.po-msgstr "Judul"
> > > kok/sw/source/ui/utlui.po-msgstr "मथळो"
> > > ko/sw/source/ui/utlui.po-msgstr "제목"
> > > mai/sw/source/ui/utlui.po-msgstr "शीर्षक"
> > > mni/sw/source/ui/utlui.po-msgstr "মিংথোল"
> > > mn/sw/source/ui/utlui.po-msgstr "Гарчиг"
> > > my/sw/source/ui/utlui.po-msgstr "ခေါင်းစဉ်"
> > > ne/sw/source/ui/utlui.po-msgstr "शीर्षक"
> > > nn/sw/source/ui/utlui.po-msgstr "Overskrift"
> > > oc/sw/source/ui/utlui.po-msgstr "Títol"
> > > om/sw/source/ui/utlui.po-msgstr "Mataduree"
> > > or/sw/source/ui/utlui.po-msgstr "ଶୀର୍ଷକ"
> > > sa-IN/sw/source/ui/utlui.po-msgstr "शीर्षकः"
> > > sid/sw/source/ui/utlui.po-msgstr "Umo"
> > > tg/sw/source/ui/utlui.po-msgstr "Сарлавҳа"
> > > ug/sw/source/ui/utlui.po-msgstr "ماۋزۇ"
> > >
> > > kl and ky don't have a translation. So that leaves 23 languages where
> > > the strings are the same.
> > >
> > > List of languages:
> > >
> > > be bn-IN bn bo bs hi hr id kok ko mai mni mn my ne nn oc om or sa-IN sid tg
> > > ug
> > >
> > > ciao
> > > Christian
> > >
> > >
> > >
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