Re: [libreoffice-l10n] pap_CW

Dear list,

First of all, I am including Manuel Ortega in this mail. He took the 
words file for Papiamento (CW) and ran with it to make a Firefox and 
Thunderbird spell-checker. The powers of Open Source! (They dazzle me 
sometimes even after 20 years!)

Maybe Manuel is already on this list. I hope we can cooperate on this...!

After a looooong time, finally we have a first version of the locale for 
pap_CW. You can find it at

http://www.it46.se/afrigen/export/ooo/pap_CW.xml

I am cc-ing Louise Berthilson in this mail too, because she provided the 
tool to create the locale (and many others too, at 
http://www.it46.se/afrigen)

Now my questions are:

- is this locale suitable for LibreOffice ?

- I understand that a locale is needed for the spell-checker to work 
correctly. Until now we had the pap_AN spell-checker and it only works 
when selecting a bunch of characters (all of them for instance) and 
select the 'Character' menu and then choose the language. But, the 
language does not show up in the main menu, where it says 'Choose 
language for all text' etc. My understanding is that this will start 
working once a locale is in place.

- Nobody here knows what a locale is, and there are no official rules 
for any of the items in the locale. For instance, some write the date 
the American way and some the Dutch way, m/d/y versus d-m-y. I opted for 
yyyy-mm-dd since I think that is the way dates should be written. But 
it's by no means the official way of denotation - there is no official 
way. So, is it a big problem to change the locale when we find new 
insights? Will it break old files (Calc, for instance) if we change 
stuff in the locale later?

- There are OOo and LO versions out there that have pap_AN somewhere in 
the source. Now .an does not exist anymore, will an update to LO break 
the old files that have pap_AN in there? Should we maintain pap_AN for a 
while ?

I hope this work will further the use of OOo/LO in  Curaçao. As soon as 
we understand the process, we will work on pap_AW and pap_BQ (for Aruba 
and Bonaire) too, although pap_CW is 99% the same als pap_BQ.

We very much appreciate your insights.

Cheers
ace

PS Also including Urso Wieske, who did a lot on translating Sugar Labs 
software (for OLPC).




On 01/14/2013 03:22 PM, Andras Timar wrote:
> Hi Ace,
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Ace Suares (Suares & Co)
> <ace@suares.com> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Nice to meet all of you, I am trying to do localization for Papiamento
> > (Curaçao) (pap_CW).
> > I appreciate any help in completing that daunting task.
> >
> > At the moment I am maken a local for papiamento (CW) in afrigen.
> > As soon as it is ready I will aks for directions :-)
> >
> > Oh, and does anyone know if there already is someone responsible for this
> > language or the language 'pap' ?
> pap_CW locale is already supported in LibreOffice, I see it in
> i18npool\source\localedata\data\pap_CW.xml.
> I added pap_CW language to Pootle, you are the administrator of this
> language. You can start to translate LibreOffice UI.
> For instructions, please start reading here:
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translating_LibreOffice
>
> Best regards,
> Andras


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