Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Belarusian/Belorussian translation

Hi Yury,
On 04/03/2011 09:56, Yury Tarasievich wrote:
> Could you clarify, where is indicated *what*? That the translation is
> maintained without Pootle? I didn't see (or hear from you, for that
> matter) about the Pootle use being mandatory. Or that the translation is
> included officially? I'd guess that was obvious, from the fact the
> builds are generated.

Did I say it is mandatory, in the page I indicated, there is a table 
where a yes or no is needed, indicating that the translation will be 
taken on Pootle or not. We are not supposed to get every thing in our 
mind, please a little help is understandable too. I'm sorry I made the 
mistake to believe the missing information.
> On 03/04/2011 08:31 AM, Sophie Gautier wrote:
> ...
> > I'm sorry if we made a mistake, but where is it indicated?
> ...
> > It seems you didn't update these informations on the wiki here:
> > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language_Teams
> > and here:
> > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3_3
>
> Also, where did that file go:
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=BE/Main_Page
>
> I distinctly remember Mikalai translating it and me revising it.

I don't know, I'm not maintaining those wiki page.
> You also say:
>
> > Please, understand that it's very difficult for us to follow each
> > language team if this information is not up to date.
> > Sasha request an access to translate the help files, could you see with
> > him if he can help your team here?
>
> Everybody is free to contribute, even if not in Pootle. Several people
> contributed to the translation over the years.

Did I said the contrary?
> The problems I see now w/r to the Belarusian translation included in the
> LibreOffice are:
>
> 1) How Sasha (or anybody, for that matter) was given *admin* access w/r
> to *anything at all* in the Belarusian translation without me not even
> getting a ping, not from Sasha, nor from anybody from LO team? Did
> everybody look at the existing be-BY builds and somehow not notice that
> the builds material had to come from somewhere?

Again I apologize if we made a mistake, but none of the information was 
available to help us prevent this mistake. Thanks to understand that our 
time is also limited and a little help is needed.
> 2) What've actually changed in the list of teams, besides Sasha's email
> put in the contact for the "Belarusian team"?

I don't understand your question, there was no team listed, this is why 
we propose to Sasha to add himself
> 3) You personally requested my approval for the inclusion of the be-BY
> translation. So, my name is already linked with the material in
> question. How come Andras wasn't consulting the registry or something?

It's me who is faulty here, I'm really sorry that I don't remember that 
you were already working on the translation for LibreOffice. I don't see 
you in the table saying where the translation should be taken. So don't 
blame Sasha or Andras, only me about this. I'll try to remember 
everything next time (or take my personal notes more up to date).

> That's, like, expected elementary book-keeping, *even* if there are lots
> of languages.
>
> Also, on list I've seen Sasha expressing the wish to translate
> "something", help wasn't mentioned.
>
> I'd expect the LO Team to correct this situation.

You are part or the LO Team I think as well as all of us here, and again 
I apologize for the mistake I've made. Andras and Rimas are both 
volunteering to help us have your files integrated in the build, so 
could you please update the information on the wiki and give Sasha some 
rights so he can make some proposal unless you do'nt want him to 
participaet. He told me that he wanted to work on the help file on a 
mail he sent on moderation but he didn't request admin rights so don't 
take him as responsible of the situation, it's entirely my fault.

Kind regards
Sophie
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