Re: [libreoffice-design] citrus

Hello Mirek

I have been wanting to talk to you for some time about your designs.


> Right now, I also don't have an internet connection at home -- I
> should have it soon, but right now I have to resort to visiting the public
> library for internet.


that sucks I have had to do that for a while too.


> > He also was so kind to join our ideas collection
> > when we've collected menu alternatives within the OpenOffice.org
> > Renaissance project. Here is his proposal:
> > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Proposal_by_Miroslav_Mazel
> >
> > That's a very old proposal -- I definitely wouldn't stand by it now. at
> the time, I was smitten with Microsoft's ribbon, and, instead of looking
> at what in the ribbon is an improvement over the old way of working (like
> better

 organization or contextuality) and what was a detriment (e.g. too much
> space
> taken up, having to click tabs to get to functionality that should be
> available up front, ...), I just flatly wanted OOo to emulate the ribbon
> (knee-jerk reaction).


I was suprised by this, because I read your blog and know that you do not
like the ribbon system. I still like the ribbon UI for it is so much better
than the curent LO UI. I was in the middle of designing a UI for LO that I
made for a program that I was making(you can see them here
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Android272).  but once I found your
UI consepts and got the contextualty of them, I feel in love, and started
changing little parts of my program to suport the citus UI.

I have been working of a moc citrus Calc. I saw that you do not have Calc
done at all and have a lot of impress done. do you just not use Calc, and
are more inspired with impress.  I love what you have done.

cheers
Andrew


> > It is something I would say that we need to be working

> > toward.  What is going on with LibreOffice right now.  Other than bugs
> > > getting fixed, what else is going on?
> >
> > It depends on the point-of-view ... currently I'd say there is no chance
> > to completely revise the UI in one-shot (for several reasons). Instead,
> > it would be good to focus on manageable improvements for Design,
> > Development, QA, ...
> >
> > There have been regular posts on what is wrong with details of the UI -
> > it just needs somebody to take care of that (e.g. the zoom slider which
> > has been mentioned some days ago). That should help us to in a position
> > for larger changes.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Christoh
> >
> >
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On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Cheng-Chia Tseng <pswo10680@gmail.com>wrote:

> I admire "Citrus UI" too.
> If we never try, we will never know it fits or not.
>
> I am curious about how GNOME Shell or Unity shell gets their new design
> done.
> We defenetly can learn some experience from these projects.
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Mirek M. <mazelm@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Andrew, Christoph,
> >
> > 2011/9/6 Christoph Noack <christoph@dogmatux.com>
> >
> > > Hi Andrew!
> > >
> > > Am Montag, den 05.09.2011, 20:16 -0400 schrieb Andrew Pullins:
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >
> > > > Does any one know what has happened to the guy designing the "Citrus
> UI."
> > >  I
> > > > have been trying to get a hold of him so we can collaborate on his UI
> > > > designs. I am really interested in making LibreOffice look good, and
> his
> > > > designs are great.
> > >
> > > Yep, there are some terrific ideas - he was (and I hope: is) with us
> > > since quite some time.
> >
> >
> > Yes, I'm still here, though I don't have the time to read through all the
> > e-mails. Right now, I also don't have an internet connection at home -- I
> > should have it soon, but right now I have to resort to visiting the
> public
> > library for internet.
> >
> >
> > > He also was so kind to join our ideas collection
> > > when we've collected menu alternatives within the OpenOffice.org
> > > Renaissance project. Here is his proposal:
> > > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Proposal_by_Miroslav_Mazel
> > >
> > > That's a very old proposal -- I definitely wouldn't stand by it now. At
> the
> > time, I was smitten with Microsoft's ribbon, and, instead of looking at
> what
> > in the ribbon is an improvement over the old way of working (like better
> > organization or contextuality) and what was a detriment (e.g. too much
> space
> > taken up, having to click tabs to get to functionality that should be
> > available up front, ...), I just flatly wanted OOo to emulate the ribbon
> > (knee-jerk reaction). I was also unconcerned with ease of use and an
> > uninterrupted workflow, instead giving importance to feature-richness
> (hence
> > the tabs, the "tattoed" scroll bar, etc.). And, looking back at the
> > proposal, it's a bit hard to read, no?
> >
> > In summary, please disregard that proposal :)
> >
> >
> > > > It is something I would say that we need to be working
> > > > toward.  What is going on with LibreOffice right now.  Other than bugs
> > > > getting fixed, what else is going on?
> > >
> > > It depends on the point-of-view ... currently I'd say there is no chance
> > > to completely revise the UI in one-shot (for several reasons). Instead,
> > > it would be good to focus on manageable improvements for Design,
> > > Development, QA, ...
> > >
> > > There have been regular posts on what is wrong with details of the UI -
> > > it just needs somebody to take care of that (e.g. the zoom slider which
> > > has been mentioned some days ago). That should help us to in a position
> > > for larger changes.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Christoh
> > >
> > >
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