Re: [libreoffice-design] citrus

I admire "Citrus UI" too.
If we never try, we will never know it fits or not.

I am curious about how GNOME Shell or Unity shell gets their new design done.
We defenetly can learn some experience from these projects.


On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Mirek M. <mazelm@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Andrew, Christoph,
>
> 2011/9/6 Christoph Noack <christoph@dogmatux.com>
>
> > Hi Andrew!
> >
> > Am Montag, den 05.09.2011, 20:16 -0400 schrieb Andrew Pullins:
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > Does any one know what has happened to the guy designing the "Citrus UI."
> >  I
> > > have been trying to get a hold of him so we can collaborate on his UI
> > > designs. I am really interested in making LibreOffice look good, and his
> > > designs are great.
> >
> > Yep, there are some terrific ideas - he was (and I hope: is) with us
> > since quite some time.
>
>
> Yes, I'm still here, though I don't have the time to read through all the
> e-mails. Right now, I also don't have an internet connection at home -- I
> should have it soon, but right now I have to resort to visiting the public
> library for internet.
>
>
> > He also was so kind to join our ideas collection
> > when we've collected menu alternatives within the OpenOffice.org
> > Renaissance project. Here is his proposal:
> > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Proposal_by_Miroslav_Mazel
> >
> > That's a very old proposal -- I definitely wouldn't stand by it now. At the
> time, I was smitten with Microsoft's ribbon, and, instead of looking at what
> in the ribbon is an improvement over the old way of working (like better
> organization or contextuality) and what was a detriment (e.g. too much space
> taken up, having to click tabs to get to functionality that should be
> available up front, ...), I just flatly wanted OOo to emulate the ribbon
> (knee-jerk reaction). I was also unconcerned with ease of use and an
> uninterrupted workflow, instead giving importance to feature-richness (hence
> the tabs, the "tattoed" scroll bar, etc.). And, looking back at the
> proposal, it's a bit hard to read, no?
>
> In summary, please disregard that proposal :)
>
>
> > > It is something I would say that we need to be working
> > > toward.  What is going on with LibreOffice right now.  Other than bugs
> > > getting fixed, what else is going on?
> >
> > It depends on the point-of-view ... currently I'd say there is no chance
> > to completely revise the UI in one-shot (for several reasons). Instead,
> > it would be good to focus on manageable improvements for Design,
> > Development, QA, ...
> >
> > There have been regular posts on what is wrong with details of the UI -
> > it just needs somebody to take care of that (e.g. the zoom slider which
> > has been mentioned some days ago). That should help us to in a position
> > for larger changes.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Christoh
> >
> >
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