Re: [libreoffice-design] citrus

Hi Andrew, Christoph,

2011/9/6 Christoph Noack <christoph@dogmatux.com>

> Hi Andrew!
>
> Am Montag, den 05.09.2011, 20:16 -0400 schrieb Andrew Pullins:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Does any one know what has happened to the guy designing the "Citrus UI."
>  I
> > have been trying to get a hold of him so we can collaborate on his UI
> > designs. I am really interested in making LibreOffice look good, and his
> > designs are great.
>
> Yep, there are some terrific ideas - he was (and I hope: is) with us
> since quite some time.


Yes, I'm still here, though I don't have the time to read through all the
e-mails. Right now, I also don't have an internet connection at home -- I
should have it soon, but right now I have to resort to visiting the public
library for internet.


> He also was so kind to join our ideas collection
> when we've collected menu alternatives within the OpenOffice.org
> Renaissance project. Here is his proposal:
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Proposal_by_Miroslav_Mazel
>
> That's a very old proposal -- I definitely wouldn't stand by it now. At the
time, I was smitten with Microsoft's ribbon, and, instead of looking at what
in the ribbon is an improvement over the old way of working (like better
organization or contextuality) and what was a detriment (e.g. too much space
taken up, having to click tabs to get to functionality that should be
available up front, ...), I just flatly wanted OOo to emulate the ribbon
(knee-jerk reaction). I was also unconcerned with ease of use and an
uninterrupted workflow, instead giving importance to feature-richness (hence
the tabs, the "tattoed" scroll bar, etc.). And, looking back at the
proposal, it's a bit hard to read, no?

In summary, please disregard that proposal :)


> > It is something I would say that we need to be working
> > toward.  What is going on with LibreOffice right now.  Other than bugs
> > getting fixed, what else is going on?
>
> It depends on the point-of-view ... currently I'd say there is no chance
> to completely revise the UI in one-shot (for several reasons). Instead,
> it would be good to focus on manageable improvements for Design,
> Development, QA, ...
>
> There have been regular posts on what is wrong with details of the UI -
> it just needs somebody to take care of that (e.g. the zoom slider which
> has been mentioned some days ago). That should help us to in a position
> for larger changes.
>
> Cheers,
> Christoh
>
>
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