Re: [libreoffice-design] Ribbons and Background Color UX

On 23 May 2011 at 9:57, Christopher Stark wrote:

> Hi,
>
> as I mentioned earlier, the main argument against ribbons is that in M$
> Office the user has to click on ribbons/tabs all the time and never
> knows if the required functions hide behind "Review", "Insert" or
> "Design"...

My annoyance with ribbons is:
- In MSO 2003 / LibO, I can easily see the things I expect to be in the top toolbar - font 
information and so on.  
If I perform certain other functions (e.g. tables), another floating toolbar appears.

- In MSO 2007/10, going into tables causes a big menu all about tables to obscure the things I want 
to see on 
the menu, with a lot of options I am not one bit interested in.  Also, the buttons are SO 
inconsistent - different 
sizes, some have text and some do not, etc.

In fact, the Ribbon reminds me of 'modern art'.  It's a piece of junk and if anyone else designed 
it, 
commentators would call it junk.  But because Microsoft say it is 'good', lots of people who should 
know better 
agree with them.

The MSO ribbon is crap.  While I love Open Source and LibO, I would either stay on LibO 3.3 
forever, or go to 
WordPerfect if LibO mimicked that horrible interface.


> All this makes working with the current solution in my opinion much more efficient than with 
> ribbons

Absolutely.  If I wanted stupid ribbons cluttering the place, I would be using MSO.  I'm not using 
it because the 
interface stinks.  OTOH, if someone developed an implementation of ribbons that was so good, and 
showed 
that the idea is fine and that MS have simply done a bad job of developing it, that would be 
another matter.

In another email, Sveinn í Felli suggests an optional vertical toolbar - possibly a far more 
sensible option, 
especially as so many people have wide screens nowadays.

ZF.
--
Zaphod

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