Re: [libreoffice-website] an black list has an IP address on it that LO uses now

On 06/03/2013 08:21 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> Hi again, just a little clarification:
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Christian Lohmaier
> <lohmaier+ooofuture@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > [...]
> > "Q41: How does one contact APEWS?
> > A41: One does not. APEWS does not accept removal request by email,
> > fax, voicemail or letters. [....]"
> >
> > The only chance to get unlisted is to:
> That should have been: They make it seem so. But this is just a way to
> make fun of people.
>
> > Don't post there. You *WILL* be flamed, and rightfully so.
> As is written on their page as well:
> " Note that posting messages in these newsgroups & lists will not have
> any effect on APEWS listings, only the discontinuation of spam and/or
> spam support will.
> Abusing these newsgroups & lists by posting removal request you will
> make a fool of yourself and are at risk to end up in additional
> private blocklists, so think twice before posting."
>
> So once again: Don't post to those newsgroups!
>
> > → Tell your ISP to stop using APEWS blocklists. Every mail-admin who
> > uses that lists gives a s*t about its users. Fine if you want to use
> > it for your own business, if you're offering business to your clients,
> > using that blacklist is a stupid idea.
> >
> > Let me put it in stronger words:
> > Using APEWS blacklist questions your ability to run services for other people.
> And this is of course still true.
>
> ciao
> Christian

I was told that the company who leased the IP address to LO is the one 
that needs to contact APEWS.  I would not use email to do this either.  
Direct phone to a live person - yes person talking to another over the 
phone is a rare concept to many people who grew up using free text 
messaging and email services, but had to pay for the "live" phone calls.

So some tech manager at the IP leasing company talks to the APEWS tech 
people by phone and maybe send faxes back and forth, or other non-email 
messaging.  Then maybe, somehow, APEWS will get the idea that the 
current company using the IP address is not the people/company who got 
reported for spam.  But if APEWS feels that the owner of the IP address 
was not doing a proper job in enforcing anti-spam policies, then things 
will not work out and we need to get a new IP address in the range of 
the ones we have that are not having these black list issues.



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