Re: [libreoffice-website] Update on Drupal Website Progress

Hi Michael, all,
On 22/11/2010 04:32, Michael Wheatland wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Sophie Gautier
> <gautier.sophie@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
> > You do not mean that the sites in different languages will look the same
> > with the same content? Language projects need to have their own content and
> > do not rely on automatic translation because it deliver very poor quality.
> > For the Drupal sites used on the OOo project, we manage the translation of
> > the Drupal files on Pootle, so I think we can do the same here. But for the
> > content, really each project should be able to manage it's own content.
> >
> > And thanks all for your work :)
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Sophie
>
> Automatic Translation will only occur on things which are considered
> 'instant communication' such as forums, mailing lists, and such.

Well, how will it works. We are used to have forums and mailing lists in 
our own languages, with hundreds of mails/questions per day. So how will 
it works between all the languages? For example between DE/FR/NL?
We are building a FAQ from these exchanges or a knowledge base, how will 
it work?
> The main section of the site (ie product information, support pages
> etc.) will be manually translated either through pootle or directly on
> the site.
> If there is a page which does not have a native translation yet it
> will display in english and allow the user to offer a translation
> directly on the site if authorised as a translator.

But what for a page which is in French and has no equivalent in English 
or is not relevant in Russian or in Sinhalese ? We do have contents 
relative to a dedicated language that do not concern others? And, for my 
own opinion, a fallback in English is just not acceptable.
> To summarise we will be maintaining the integrity and quality of all
> of the 'important' content while allowing cross-language communication
> in real time for community discussions. I envisage that this should
> break down a lot of barriers for people getting involved in the
> project.

We break the barriers by providing support and content in the language 
of the user and the contributors. Several native language teams have 
already strong communities of users and contributors, this works really 
well for the OOo NLC and we should not break this imho. For the French 
team for example, they are already working on documentation, QA and 
marketing. There is a forum running for thousands of users and mailing 
list are quite busy too. I don't see how all this activity will run if 
you translate the content from English as a central language to the 
other languages, that will be seen has a very very negative approach. Or 
may be I missed something?

I've added Jean-Baptiste Faure in CC of this mail, because I'm still 
travelling and he will be able to answer the questions you may have 
during the two next days where I'll be disconnected.

But again this is really important that the contents for the Native 
Language sites are provided in the native language of this group by this 
group and reflect the needs of this group, not the one of another 
language, be it English, German or Japanese. I hope you understand 
my/our concerns because the approach is really different, may be at the 
opposite, of your proposal. This approach has permitted to build a 
strong and efficient community in OpenOffice.org and shall be continued 
the same way here.

There is no emergency currently, we can still take time to speak about 
it if you need to. I'll be back on Wednesday, don't hesitate to ask any 
further questions or explanations you may need.

Kind regards
Sophie
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