Re: [libreoffice-website] Mailing lists (was: Re: Modified website design proposal)

On Wednesday 03 Nov 2010 22:15:30 Nino Novak wrote:
> On Wednesday 03 November 2010 00:20, Michael Wheatland wrote:
> > P.S. I have tried to post this message 3 times over the last 12
> > hours. I really dislike mailing lists!
>
> Michael,
>
> what do you mean by "I tried" - how did you try to post the message?
>
> A mailing list is used here because it allows maximum working efficency,
> far over any web based service.

You are of course kidding, I couldn't post to any TDF lists or addresses for 
about three days because the list decided to blacklist my ISP and they all got 
bounced as spam and that during a critical discussion

> People receiving several hundreds (or thousands) of messages daily can
> best handle them with mailing lists: you subscribe, create
> folders/filters and can browse them extremely fast as they are on your
> own computer and you can use your own mail client software. Most mail
> clients implement elaborated techniques to support quick work, as
> threaded view, hiding/unhiding messages or threads, filtered views,
> watching threads, replying to the list or to the sender only, etc.
>
> So maybe you just do not know how to make maximum benefit from the
> lists?

I use mail lists for one reason only, I'm on dialup and it's easier to work 
offline, otherwise everything that is good about working in the cloud, works 
with forums.  Mail lists are a pain in the bupkiss, they scare new users, 
they're nonintuitive to subscribe too and get rid of, they're difficult to 
moderate, they intrude on your connection in the worst possible way by tying 
it up until everything is down loaded, the security of your mail is up to the 
stability of your mail client. And yes I've lost important mail due to mail 
client upgrade.  

If I had a broadband connection I wouldn't go near maillists if I could get 
away with it, unfortunately in the OOo project and it seems like this one, 
decisions are only made on the lists and people who stick to the forums are 
ignored by those making the decisions.

I know how to use mail lists, I'm forced to, Maybe you don't know how to make 
the most of forums.

GL

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