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Le 2010-11-01 18:07, Michael Wheatland a écrit :

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:41 AM, Christian Lohmaier
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One of the bigger questionmarks comes with the "app-store" item -
similar with the themes - so this is kind of wishful thinking, as such
stuff doesn't exist yet, neither for OOo nor for LO

Most linux distributions have what is commonly known now as an 'app
store', you might know it as a deb or rpm repository.
MS is developing one for windows and Apple has announced the Mac app
store. I would expect that LibreOffice will feature on all of these
Also, themes do exist, in their current form they are
Tools->Options->Appearance and Tools->Options->View:Icon size and
style. But yes I hope they develop rapidly in the future.

Actually, in this was spoken of in the marketing mailist. But not in the sense that this is "where you would go to get an application". App store has been vulgarized to mean a store where users go to purchase items. I would prefer to use "LibO Repository" if we are going to provide extensions, themes, templates etc. "LibO App Store" should be reserved for stores where users can browse and purchase a LibO package with documentation -- boxed sets; LibO shirts; LibO baseball caps etc. I think most people interpret a "repository" and and "App Store" this way.

But another thing that kind of irritates me is "Twitter support" - is
anyone doing this right now? Is it worth mentioning it? twitter is
kind of contrary to community-support (one asks a question, but all
benefit from the answer), with twitter my doubs are that it remains at
a personal level, only a small group of people have a benefit. similar
for facebook - I don't see how that would fit to support.

Twitter messages are a matter of public record. Think of twitter as a
message to everyone, replies to that message can also be tracked.
I have heard some people refer to it as IRC Next Gen, because you can
search for chat history very easily.
On facebook you can make a group public and everyone logged in can see
it, ie.

So far, websites should include a link to Facebook, YouTube (instructional videos), and Twitter. These are a must. Young people use these service and LibO needs to have feeds from all three running on its site. Not only that, but LibO should also have someone manning these sites as well.

And I'm also sceptical about the news - espl. "Community news editors
should be used to search for articles at least one per week." - I
don't think this is a good thing for a news-feed section. There should
be genuine news, not news harvested from other sources. A "press
coverage" section or similar would be more appropirate for this kind
of stuff, but then again I don't quite see the need for such a high

One key aspect of a community website is frequently updating the site
Major announcements such as new releases will feature prominently on
the landing page (/)
I like the idea of breaking up news into categories though.

We will need this to keep the website alive and have people come back for visits. There should be feeds of our site rcss and even for some sections of the site. If the site is dynamic, then people will talk about it and there will be some buzz about it and they will come in droves to visit. If the site is static, then people will only download the software and not return unless they need another download. Having a dynamic site should be the kind of site we need. We can use it to trumpet our accomplishments, hold national and international contests where using our software is used etc.

The difference legal/licence is not really clear to me

Licence is the LGPL open source code licence that the LibreOffice
product is distributed under
Legal would cover things like trademark use, privacy policy and disclaimers.

This is better left to the SC. They will decide with member collaboration.

wording "why not OOo"  is suboptima, but of course I'm aware that is
just a concept, but talking bad about others should be prevented if
you can say the same thing in a more positive way, just did want to
mention it)

I think we need to publicly address why we created LibreOffice as an
alternative to the massively popular and successful OOo.

We should never use negative advertising. This is just not an option. It is simply improper and I would strongly advise not to do it.

A forum is never a robust form for discussion. Forums should be
avaoided at all cost. The medium for discussion are the mailinglists,
the place where results of those discussion, the outcome is preserved
is either the wiki or the real website (once it is available)

I don't want to user forums for discussion, they are just not
comfortable enough for this. (and if you say: You can setup
email-reminders/notfication and reply via mail, then I say: Then you
can use a mailinglist from the very beginning)

I guess we will have to agree to disagree. For infrequent conversation
participants a mailing list can be overwhelming and contain a lot of
info they do not care about, therefore information can be missed
Obviously a discussion that will have to be hashed out prior to any
kind of launch.

I am new to the OOo and LibO groups. It looks like the mailists have a long tradition and this is where the debates and decisions are made. This is where the meeting of minds meet and clash, where there is consensus and dissent but without feeling targeted. This is where debates leading to a vote or hands up are made.

At first I had problems using the mailists but Florian has made arrangements for all types of discussion arenas. So, on the TDF/LibO site, we have at the choice of:

mailists-nntp (Gmane)-forums

... all of which are tied to each other and will post seamlessly from one to the other. (Sorry I can't find the forum site at this moment)

And of course there is the Wiki where teams can also discuss and planning.

Al of these discussion "forums" are readily available for members of the LibO and lend themselves quite well to the required transparency of groups.

Thanks for all of your well considered feedback on the proposal.
I hope this has addressed some of your concerns about the proposal and
I would love to examine some specifications for other approaches.


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