Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: OpenOffice to be dumped in Freiburg ?

Like Carl. I unfortunately cannot contribute to development work.

I would just like to come back to productivity and my own experience:
LibO has features which are as good or better than MSO in respect to productivity. What reduces my 
productivity are bugs (first it takes time to find out is a bug or did I make a mistake; second bug 
reporting) and corrections of MSO files I receive because they open only open with errors.

How can LibO make market shares against MSO?

For my feeling shares can be taken with a high productivity of LibO.

This can be achieved with many bugs less and full compatibility. MSO doesn' come up with a new 
format every week, thus our devs have a very good chance to adjust LibO to full compatibility.

I am convinced that
- a big part of the reasons why the City of Freiburg considers to dump OO are the above mentioned 
productivity issues (bugs and non-compatibility)
- above sketched productivity increase would enable LibO to gain substantial market shares from MSO,
- and that the required productivity increase can be released within not too much time.




On 2012-11-19 12:04, Carl Paulsen wrote:
> In practical use, I would NOT say LO (or OOo) has a "high" file compatibility with MS Office.  
> Virtually every file I receive from MS Office users has some kind of problem (bullet lists almost 
> NEVER convert correctly, at least from MSO to LO).  I'm only an occasional Office suite user so I 
> put up with it (plus I'm on a Mac), but I've never been able to convince others to use LO for this 
> reason alone. And I mostly work with non-profits who, for several reasons, should be avid LO users.
>
> I also realize MSO, with it's market share, stands only to gain from keeping it's formatting a 
> moving target.  With that in mind, I just can't imagine how a project like LO could hope to keep 
> up and make inroads.
>
> Wish I could help with making it work better, but I know nothing about contributing to development.
>
> Carl
>
>
>
>
> On 11/18/12 7:48 PM, rost52 wrote:
> > I only can use Virgil's word "I hate to say it" but Virgil is right. File compatibility is very 
> > important in our daily business world where we need to exchange editable files within our company 
> > and also with external partners.
> >
> > Whenever I need to exchange files with MSO formats, I additionally attach a pdf-file or ask for 
> > pdf-file as reference. This is a reduction of productivity - I am willing to take I, but how many 
> > others?
> >
> > Although I am aware that it is not an easy task and requires dev work, 　LibO　must achieve more 
> > than a high compatibility with MSO formats. I keep fingers crossed.
> >
> >
> > On 2012-11-19 07:37, VA wrote:
> > > I hate to say it, but I think in business MS compatibility is THE paramount concern. When I was 
> > > working for a large business, I used LibO only for documents I knew I didn't have to share with 
> > > others. For anything that had to be used by others, I used MS Office.
> > >
> > > I realize that LibO is highly compatible with MS Office, but "highly" often isn't enough. In my 
> > > experience there were enough incompatibilities that it just wasn't worth the hassle of trying to 
> > > clean up documents sent back and forth between the two office suites.
> > >
> > > File format compatibility is far more important than similar user interfaces or command 
> > > structures. I would say file compatibility is the primary reason companies keep buying MS Office.
> > >
> > > Virgil
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message----- From: Pedro
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 5:25 PM
> > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > > Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: OpenOffice to be dumped in Freiburg ?
> > >
> > > NoOp wrote
> > > > Which part of that do you not understand?
> > >
> > > This part
> > > > > apache.incubator.ooo.user
> > >
> > > You are correct that I didn't notice the second option (apologies for that).
> > > I wrongly assumed it was another ooo link
> > >
> > > But redirecting a LibreOffice issue to an ooo forum doesn't make any sense.
> > > And this is a LibreOffice issue. So much so that TDF's Director bothered to
> > > answer (unfortunately in German)
> > > http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2012/11/16/open-letter-to-the-city-of-freiburg/
> > >
> > > There are some translations in the comments.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > View this message in context: 
> > > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/OpenOffice-to-be-dumped-in-Freiburg-tp4019224p4019398.html
> > > Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.



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