Hi :)
Pedro i have to disagree with one of your points although i almost entirely
agree with the rest. The 3.4.0 HAD to be released when it was even tho it
wasn't ready (as we have seen from the jump in weird problems posted to the
users list).
Oracle were playing tactical games, rushing out their 1st release since their
3.3.0 and calling it 3.4.0. LibreOffice has had 2 clear releases since their
3.3.0 (the 3.3.1 and the 3.3.2) and were working on the 3rd, due at the time to
be called 3.3.4. Some segments of the press were hailing LibreOffice as much
faster developing than OOo because LO's 3.3.0 released the day before OOo's
3.3.0. BUT by calling their first release since then the "3.4.0" the public &
media's perception would be that Oracle had leap-frogged over LO and regained
the lead. (even tho it contained less work and less added functionality than the
3.3.1 (or even than the LO 3.3.0!)).
TDF showed that it was highly responsive, adaptable and crucially NOT stupid
about PR and dirty tricks by changing the name to 3.4.0 and releasing fast. As
a result Oracle have "caved in", realising they couldn't hope to compete against
TDF.
Oddly, despite several communications with them at all levels they didn't
reailse they stood to gain a LOT from co-operating with TDF, including the
highly profitable side of thing, paid corporate user-support (telephones, forums
etc). Hopefully the friendlier Apache Foundation or even TDF might be able to
offer that level of support. THere is plenty of room for co-operative
competition in that area. I think Oracle took everyone by surprise in caving-in
so fast and i would be even more surprised if Oracle didn't try to thro
something more damaging at TDF even now. I suspect TDF Steering and Founders
are prepared for it.
Just now we temporarily have to deal with the fall-out from the easy win. Which
is annoying but quite amusing at the same time.
Regards from
Tom :)
----- Original Message ----
From: plino <pedlino@gmail.com>
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Sat, 11 June, 2011 12:29:01
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: helping Users and LibreOffice - proposal
Hi Cour
(none of the following criticisms are directed at you, who are one of the
few (only?) members of the SC who sees this project as a productivity tool
for the users)
I don't know if you are aware that installing LibO 3.4.0 under Windows
silently uninstalls 3.3 without asking (even if the installer is run in
customized mode). Therefore it is not possible to have both versions
installed under Windows. I know this is possible under Linux but this
project doesn't care a f*ck about Windows users (even though they are the
majority of users, but hey, who cares?) so one can only recommend one
version OR the other.
Given the degree of regression and bugs added (I totally agree with Tom that
3.4.0 "sounds more like a beta-release") and that the developers are not too
worried about regressions, in my opinion if someone is using 3.3.2 for work
(and believe me: even if the LO site has a disclaimer about 3.4 being
experimental, all other download sites/mirrors don't, so expect a LOT of
angry users in the near future) I will not recommend 3.4 for anything other
than playing around.
In my opinion, releasing 3.4.0 as Stable was a major error and a shot on the
foot for this project.
But the all-mighty Release Schedule as to be met, no matter what comes out
of it...
Regards,
Pedro
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