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On Saturday, June 11, 2011 12:35:03 PM Tom Davies wrote:
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On Saturday, June 11, 2011 04:55:12 AM Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)

Pedro i have to disagree with one of your points although i 
almost entirely agree with the rest.  The 3.4.0 HAD to be
released  when it was even tho it wasn't ready (as we have seen
from the jump in  weird problems posted to the users list).

 Oracle were playing tactical games, rushing out their 1st
 release

since  their 3.3.0 and calling it 3.4.0.  LibreOffice has had 2
clear

 releases since their 3.3.0 (the 3.3.1 and the 3.3.2) and were

working on  the 3rd, due at the time to be called 3.3.4.  Some
segments of the  press were hailing LibreOffice as much faster
developing than OOo  because LO's 3.3.0 released the day before
OOo's 3.3.0.  BUT by  calling their first release since then the
"3.4.0" the public &  media's perception would be that Oracle
had leap-frogged over LO and  regained the lead. (even tho it
contained less work and less added  functionality than the 3.3.1
(or even than the LO 3.3.0!)).

Tom have  to disagree with coming out with a new version just to
get it out because a  competior did something. In my 40+ years in
the It field I saw many  companies do this and lose their
reputation for good quality products. (  Xerox, Data General,
Digital Equipment all gone from making main frames,  mini's and
other computer related products).

My thoughts are come out  with a good quality product when its
ready. This does not mean wait forever,  but get rid of themajor
issues, add functionality, test and then release.  (Calc is good
example ,in my mind, of a product with problems, also some in 
writer when dealing with docx). I'm trying to document and bug
report the  ones I see, but some are documents I cannot attach
because of the  information they contain).

I will be glad to test 3.4.0 but I need to  keep 3.3.2 running due
to monthly commitments. I hope to load opensuse 12.0  this week
and then 3.4.0 with it to test.

Russ

openSUSE  11.4(2.6.37.6-0.5-desktop)|KDE Platform Version 4.6.3
(4.6.3) "release  4"|Intel core2duo 2.5 MHZ,|8GB DDR3|GeForce
8400GS  (NVIDIA- Linux-x86_64-270.41.06)

Hi :)
Well the 3.4.1 is going to settle a lot of the issues and it's due
out reasonably soon, unrushed.  Until then, or even beyond the, we
have the 3.3.2 beign supported for quite a long time.  Otherwise i
would agree with you and i don't entirely disagree now.
Regards from
Tom :)
It was just my old age and 2 cents remembering the way we used to 
release software. Yes I'm using 3.3.2 but that's where my calc problems 
started. 

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