Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Ideas wanted for "How we're different" part of new LibreOffice website

Just updating the link to the blog post by Italo I referenced previously:

https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/09/08/libreoffice-tt-replacing-microsoft-fonts/

Is there any impediments with shipping all of the metrically compatible
fonts mentioned and create the mappings by default like Italo has done?

This could be a very important component for interoperability with
Microsoft documents. As a primarily Windows user I have all of the
Microsoft fonts by default but I am aware the Linux and Mac users do not.

Perhaps this could be done in the upcoming 7.3 release, or would there be a
reason that would prevent this useful step?

Kind regards

On Thu, 9 Dec 2021, 07:37 James Harking, <james.harking@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you for that information Simon, I was not aware that they co-funded
> the specification, that shows a strong level of commitment to me,  however
> that would make sense as the announcement of support was made the same day
> as the document foundation.
>
> Since a default font is not mandated in ODF 1.3 from what I understand
> then you can't criticise Microsoft for defaulting to their own proprietary
> and widely used fonts. That is a consistency and business decision. And as
> a business marketing by it's very nature is there to grow their own
> products.
>
> If I am not mistaken there are metrically compatible FLOSS fonts that
> replace the proprietary Microsoft fonts in almost all regards. I remember
> Italo Vignoli wrote a very good article on this a while back. Do all of
> these compatible fonts ship by default with LibreOffice and crucially are
> the mappings set up that when a document calls, for example, Calibre the
> corresponding FLOSS font is used? If I'm not mistaken this wasn't the case
> as Italo shared his mappings used.
>
> If it is not the case then simply enabling that mapping would appear to be
> a a huge step forward in document interoperability.
>
> Kind regards to all
>
>
> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021, 23:57 Simon Phipps, <simon@webmink.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 10:34 PM James Harking <james.harking@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >  I have to hand it to them their
> > > adoption of the format was very quickly done after the Oasis
> > > ratification.
> >
> > They participate in the ODF TC these days, and they co-funded the editing
> > of the 1.3 specification with TDF and afew others, so they are actively
> > tracking the standard. Most of the arguments against them on the topic are
> > related to more subtle incompatibilities such as default fonts (and their
> > metrics and IP regime), document management, encryption and their regional
> > marketing.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Simon

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