Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Ideas wanted for "How we're different" part of new LibreOffice website

As a committed "end user" I agree totally.  I have only used Linux since
Windose 98 broke my computer.  However I write academic papers and give
presentations at conferences.  I am paranoid that my Libre-Office output
will be rejected or break when I complete tasks and send them to the
Microcrap world,  So far, I have always managed to test my work on a
Microcrap machine, but it is unnecessary hassle.  I understand that their
products are not cross compatible too.  That is an opportunity for us
surely?

On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 at 22:24, James Harking <james.harking@gmail.com> wrote:

> The issue is that you can't include by default the Microsoft fonts as they
> are not freely redistributable. Users on Linux and Mac will therefore have
> issues with document fidelity when a Word document, for example,  is sent
> to a LibreOffice user. This puts that user immediately at a disadvantage.
>
> When it is required to submit that document back in the same format or
> collaborate your changes are not guaranteed to be interoperable. I think
> using these metrically compatible fonts for all of the proprietary ones
> makes a whole lot of sense and is something technically not difficult to
> do.
>
> Now this might increase the size of the binaries and I can see this could
> be an issue. However there could also be less used and arguably less
> important fonts that could be removed. I think in every LibreOffice release
> a focus on document interoperability should be emphasized as this is one of
> the major sticking points for users and you will see this emphasized in
> almost every review and frequently in support forums and websites such as
> Reddit.
>
>
>
> On Sat, 11 Dec 2021, 15:45 Paolo Debortoli, <paolo_debortoli@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi.  Right.  I don't know, but I use ms fonts on libreoffice as well.
> > compatibility is a good problem for people (and administration or
> schools)
> > who want to migrate from ms to libreoffice, as many institutions already
> > did.
> >
> > May be we are different in something like: 'people working for people;
> an
> > association of users / customers;    we don't complain for policies and
> > rules, but we build our own;  our profits are cultural and social  (not
> for
> > super rich or fiscal paradieses)'.   open source is also a new business
> > model which can redistribute wealth and make people more equal  (and
> > collaborative).
> >
> >
> > Paolo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Friday, December 10, 2021, 11:53:49 PM GMT+1, James Harking <
> > james.harking@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Just updating the link to the blog post by Italo I referenced previously:
> https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/09/08/libreoffice-tt-replacing-microsoft-fonts/
> > Is there any impediments with shipping all of the metrically compatible
> > fonts mentioned and create the mappings by default like Italo has done?
> >
> > This could be a very important component for interoperability with
> > Microsoft documents. As a primarily Windows user I have all of the
> > Microsoft fonts by default but I am aware the Linux and Mac users do not.
> >
> > Perhaps this could be done in the upcoming 7.3 release, or would there
> be a
> > reason that would prevent this useful step?
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> >
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