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As a committed "end user" I agree totally.  I have only used Linux since
Windose 98 broke my computer.  However I write academic papers and give
presentations at conferences.  I am paranoid that my Libre-Office output
will be rejected or break when I complete tasks and send them to the
Microcrap world,  So far, I have always managed to test my work on a
Microcrap machine, but it is unnecessary hassle.  I understand that their
products are not cross compatible too.  That is an opportunity for us

On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 at 22:24, James Harking <> wrote:

The issue is that you can't include by default the Microsoft fonts as they
are not freely redistributable. Users on Linux and Mac will therefore have
issues with document fidelity when a Word document, for example,  is sent
to a LibreOffice user. This puts that user immediately at a disadvantage.

When it is required to submit that document back in the same format or
collaborate your changes are not guaranteed to be interoperable. I think
using these metrically compatible fonts for all of the proprietary ones
makes a whole lot of sense and is something technically not difficult to

Now this might increase the size of the binaries and I can see this could
be an issue. However there could also be less used and arguably less
important fonts that could be removed. I think in every LibreOffice release
a focus on document interoperability should be emphasized as this is one of
the major sticking points for users and you will see this emphasized in
almost every review and frequently in support forums and websites such as

On Sat, 11 Dec 2021, 15:45 Paolo Debortoli, <>

Hi.  Right.  I don't know, but I use ms fonts on libreoffice as well.
compatibility is a good problem for people (and administration or
who want to migrate from ms to libreoffice, as many institutions already

May be we are different in something like: 'people working for people;
association of users / customers;    we don't complain for policies and
rules, but we build our own;  our profits are cultural and social  (not
super rich or fiscal paradieses)'.   open source is also a new business
model which can redistribute wealth and make people more equal  (and


On Friday, December 10, 2021, 11:53:49 PM GMT+1, James Harking <> wrote:

Just updating the link to the blog post by Italo I referenced previously:

Is there any impediments with shipping all of the metrically compatible
fonts mentioned and create the mappings by default like Italo has done?

This could be a very important component for interoperability with
Microsoft documents. As a primarily Windows user I have all of the
Microsoft fonts by default but I am aware the Linux and Mac users do not.

Perhaps this could be done in the upcoming 7.3 release, or would there
be a
reason that would prevent this useful step?

Kind regards

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