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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Ideas wanted for "How we're different" part of new LibreOffice website

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Mon, 6 Dec 2021 20:33:10 +0100

Impressive.

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Op ma 6 dec. 2021 om 15:06 schreef Kannan Moudgalya <kannan@iitb.ac.in>:

Hi All,

We have been conducting training on the use of LibreOffice in India.
The training involves downloading LibreOffice and practising.  We could
not have done this with MS Office - how could we afford so many
licenses?  The number of people we trained are:

Writer - 440,000
Calc - 380,000
Impress - 301,000
Base - 230,000
Draw - 106,000
Math - 85,000

One can gather these details from this URL:
https://spoken-tutorial.org/statistics/training/

Regards,
Kannan


On 06/12/21 7:15 pm, Parthasarathy Narasimhan wrote:

  Hi All,
I am a new user of Libreoffice. I am attending an Executive MBA course

where the course is being taught using MSXL and the topic is statistics. I
see this is one area where the screen input functionality between XL and
Libre differs.

Like XL shows more parameters on the screen for the student to input

while it seems Libre might be defaulting.

Just thought of sharing.
Regards,Partha

     On Monday, December 6, 2021, 06:39:52 PM GMT+5:30, James Harking <

james.harking@gmail.com> wrote:


  Hi all,

I agree with this for the most part, I think direct comparison are
difficult as the applications you can compare directly Word to Writer,
Excel to Calc and PowerPoint to Impress is not the totality of Microsoft
Office. So there is a significant short coming there.

We do have Base and Math although I'm not sure how popular and used these
components are. Interoperability is a very important consideration that
currently hinders adoption in my humble opinion. Although things have
certainly improved. I also think the current user interface is a major
downside for many people and a criticism I hear leveled at LibreOffice in
almost every discussion on LibreOffice in general.

Where we do have the advantage is on the community and freedom aspects

that

truly separates LibreOffice from its proprietary counterparts. This is

the

area I would 'evangelise.' Although this might not be a major

consideration

for some as the Libre aspects might not outweigh the gratis aspect.

King regards and greetings to all,

James

On Mon, 6 Dec 2021, 12:37 Shaun Bharth, <shaunpaulsingh@gmail.com>

wrote:

Hey hey,

Idk but I think "User Stories" might be good to feature. The UX guys
probably have done some research already before they generated their
personas. This can form the basis of "Who LibreOffice was designed for".
I'm not sure if a feature by feature comparison would actually be
effective. My understanding is that people are emotional. Most people

never

use the full feature set of Microsoft Office. They use it because

EVERYBODY

DOES. My preference is to not compete directly per se with MS Office

but as

a complement. I think the existing angle is interoperability? That could
work in the sense of MS Office at work, LibreOffice at home. "You're
chained to the desk all day, why do it at home?" yada yada.

Filipe's idea is quite a good one. I don't think Collabora has as much
traction as LibreOffice and featuring them does help quite a bit i

guess?


Thanks!
Shaun

On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 1:28 AM Filipe Gomes Morgado <fgmzrr@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi all,

Bearing in mind the topic, I would like to contribute with my opinion,
which I think is very important to mention or express the facts:
       - Open source or FOSS;
       - LibreOffice runs on macOS, Linux, and Windows,
       - “While The Document Foundation doesn't currently offer an

Android

or

iOS version of LibreOffice, there is a LibreOffice-based product in app
stores from Collabora, one of our certified developers and ecosystem
members” at: https://www.libreoffice .org/download/android-and-ios/ .

---------------------------------x---------------------------------------

Leaving the topic a bit, but not wanting to overlap the topic, I also

think

that a part related to support should be incorporated, or else in

another

document.
Therefore, it should have a kind of table where, in an easy way and not
dispersed over several places or web pages, information could be gauged

in

terms of support solutions. The numbers and names being just an

example,

something like:

< 5 computers –> we recommend that at least 2 employees take a
training/course at https://www.libreoffice.org/ , with the price xx€,

or

at
the partner https://www.udemy.com/topic/libreoffice/ , with the price

xx€.

Or see https://www.documentfoundation.org/gethelp/trainers/ , priced

from

xx€ to xx€.

5 – 20 computers –> we recommend that you contact the Collabora

partner,

with the price xx€.

21 – xx –> Et Cetera … “17€/user per year” in
https://www.collaboraoffice.com/subscriptions/ .

This would have to involve the collaboration and contribution of

ecosystem

members, and it would have to be very easy to interpret in order to

allow

for decision making. Entrepreneurs don't mind paying, after all, they
already pay for Microsoft Office, what they want is problems solved and

not

other problems, such as having to find scattered information.
In my opinion, it would be a very useful tool to present the LO, it

could

have a link on the new - :) - webpage where it could be viewed or
downloaded, and in case it was not consulted, it could be sent as an
attachment in an email or still delivered by hand after printing, by
someone who wants to publicize the LO.
It would be - if  another document - an *Official* document -

e-flyer/flyer

-, with translations in several languages, to wake up to a later
consultation that the entrepreneur or his collaborator would make in

more

depth at: https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/feedback/ ;
/community-support/ ; /professional-support/ , ...

Cheers,
Filipe.
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