Re: [libreoffice-marketing] US Journalist blames LibO for lost work

Hi :)
That would be really cool imo.  

Sadly, ime, it's the type of thing that a lot of people would object to and grumble about the space 
taken up (despite the relatively vast sizes of hard-drives these days and the tiny file-size of 
most documents).  At the moment the compromise is to give the user a pop-up when they save in 
non-native format so that you can do a 1-off save as Odf even if the default remains as Doc (or 
whatever it's been switched to).  Taking advantage of that might be the best way for the journo in 
this case - ie occasional saves in native format (Odf (specifically Odt for Writer/Word)) ensure a 
back-up is kept.  

I think this whole issue is becoming less relevant because ODF is becoming more widely used and 
accepted, so less people seem to demand MS formats.  We still have to use non-native formats far 
tooo often (still almost all the time in my country) but it's becoming possible to use Odf 
occasionally now.  Hopefully in a few years Odf might even become the more dominant format.
Regards from
Tom :)  





> ________________________________
> From: Fridolin <fridolin@kathan.co.nz>
> To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org 
> Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2012, 23:01
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] US Journalist blames LibO for lost work
>
> Hey guys,
>
> why not the following:
>
> an option in the LO defaults that automatically
> saves a document in LO format when it is saved
> in another format.... (for all documents...)
>
> or
>
> save into the document whether it should be saved
> in native as well as an alternative format, e.g. DOC.....
> (for a specific document.....)
>
> Fridolin
>
>
>
> On 14/12/12 09:53, Jean Weber wrote:
> > On 14/12/2012, at 5:09, "C. Olofson" <c.olofson@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Well;
> > >
> > > If this is considered 'best practices' or even 'good practice' the software should be set, by 
> > > default, to do it then.  Currently, in contrast, the Getting Started Guide (v3.5 p49) makes the 
> > > choice of using *either* format appear inconsequential:
> > > > If you routinely share documents with users of Microsoft Office, you might
> > > > want to change the Always save as attribute for documents to one of the Microsoft Office 
> > > > formats.
> >
> > At some point it says to keep a working copy in .ODT format, but that (and a comment about why) 
> > needs to be made more prominent and stated more strongly. I'll make sure the next iteration of 
> > the books (Writer Guide and others, not just Getting Started) does that.
> >
> > Having said that, I also agree with Craig's next paragraph.
> >
> > --Jean
> >
> > > For what it's worth, this is a classic case of a "crisis" for a consumer goods company (i.e. 
> > > s/w application publisher).  The solution to this won't be found in providing helpful hints for 
> > > the next time.  It'll be found by being very responsive in providing status and resolution in 
> > > the same forums where the crisis is being discussed by consumers.
> > >
> > > For example:
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_management#Examples_of_successful_crisis_management
> > >
> > > -Craig
> > >
> > > On 12/13/2012 10:14 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> > > > Hi :)
> > > > Jay's advice is pretty much the standard the Users List keep reiterating.  Keep an original in 
> > > > native format and if you have to share with others give them a Doc NOT a DocX
> > > >
> > > > I've lost count of how many times a wide range of different people have said that on the Users 
> > > > List.
> > > > Regards from
> > > > Tom :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: Jay Lozier <jslozier@gmail.com>
> > > > > To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2012, 18:01
> > > > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] US Journalist blames LibO for lost work
> > > > >
> > > > > On 12/13/2012 12:18 PM, Italo Vignoli wrote:
> > > > > > On 12/13/12 6:17 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Good question about document length and how was he saving. What I read
> > > > > > > did not have enough details to know truly what happened.
> > > > > > Received both docs, unfortunately they are DOCX. Short doc, three pages,
> > > > > > seems to be a format problem and not a content problem (the DOCX is
> > > > > > damaged).
> > > > > As matter of good practice I always save or create as an ODF document. If I need to send it 
> > > > > as some other format then I use Save As or File>>Export
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Jay Lozier
> > > > > jslozier@gmail.com
>
>
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