The big thing I though about was hardware and Internet costs, plus the needed marketing in the USA, as well as Europe.
If we ask for 3 times what we currently need, then get half that figure, we will hopefully make out.
The costs of everything is going up. We must plan of it. On 10/02/2012 12:47 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :) I was following in the spirit of Tim's post. I suspect that most contributors are not yet members. The membership committee have been working hard to process the applications but there is a bit of a bottle-neck. It's not easy as there is probably a vast amount to process and far too few people able to process them. TDF is growing fast. Quite how fast is unlikely to be easily quantifiable (as Tim was hinting) and whether that growth is going to continue at the same rate. Continued exponential growth seems highly unlikely and possibly impossible otherwise it would soon be more than the number of people currently living and recently deceased. Regards from Tom :)________________________________ From: Jean Weber <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: Tom Davies <email@example.com> Cc: webmaster-Kracked_P_P <firstname.lastname@example.org>; "email@example.com" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2012, 17:31 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] donation meter Tom, the number of members of TDF is not the same as the number of contributors to LibreOffice, and probably the two numbers are not even related. Don't mix apples and oranges. Jean On 02/10/2012, at 18:19, Tom Davies <email@example.com> wrote:Hi :) I agree that TDF is growing fast but is tripling in size each year realistic?? In the first year it started with 20 people and 1 release in one branch. Here we are 2 years later with 'a few' more than 180 people and having gone through to the 4 branches with around 5-6 releases per branch (ie a few more than 9 releases). Regards from Tom :)________________________________ From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: email@example.com Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2012, 16:03 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] donation meter On 10/02/2012 04:59 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:Le lundi 01 octobre 2012 à 09:55 +0200, Florian Effenberger a écrit :Hello, our fundraising campaign officially starts today. Like last time, I'd like to add a donation meter to our websites, so people can donate towards a goal. I am not a friend of unrealistic values, just to keep people donating ("We want one million dollars"). However, since this time, the main goal is to define our budget for 2013, and therefore determining the community's resources for next year, I'd like to come up with a senseful symbolic value. Comparing TDF with any other major free software organization, our budget is rather low. As an example: We have XY language projects, and each of them should have a budget of Z, that makes XYZ € to raise. Or: We have XY million downloads, and if we get 0,01 € per download, we want to raise XYZ €. Anyone has some nice numbers we can work with?I'd go for a total of 500K (max). This being said I think the marketing list is somewhat unaware of the needed volumes. Best, Charles.Florian -- Florian Effenberger, Chairman of the Board (Vorstandsvorsitzender) Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprintI do not know what the current yearly cost is, but: Why not take the current hardware and Internet costs and triple it. Then add in the same for projected real marketing costs and see what that give you. Then take that figure and add in another 50%. That could give a more "realistic" figure for 2012 "donations needed" figure. After that you could increase it by another 20% to 50% for 2013. Any figure that TDF asks for must have a realistic amount and can be justified with numbers for each line item for the current needs and the projected needs for TDF. Otherwise, having a super large figure listed will be either a waste of time or worse for the marketing aspect of LO and its reputation.-- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to firstname.lastname@example.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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