Re: [libreoffice-marketing] donation meter

What is needed here is a donation meter design and possible goals
definition: i.e 50k funds the infrastructure for one year, etc.

Could we focus on this instead of general considerations that should rather
take place on discuss@ ?

Thanks,

Charles.
Le 2 oct. 2012 18:47, "Tom Davies" <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk> a écrit :

> Hi :)
> I was following in the spirit of Tim's post.  I suspect that most
> contributors are not yet members.  The membership committee have been
> working hard to process the applications but there is a bit of a
> bottle-neck.  It's not easy as there is probably a vast amount to process
> and far too few people able to process them.  TDF is growing fast.  Quite
> how fast is unlikely to be easily quantifiable (as Tim was hinting) and
> whether that growth is going to continue at the same rate.  Continued
> exponential growth seems highly unlikely and possibly impossible otherwise
> it would soon be more than the number of people currently living and
> recently deceased.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > ________________________________
> > From: Jean Weber <jeanweber@gmail.com>
> > To: Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk>
> > Cc: webmaster-Kracked_P_P <webmaster@krackedpress.com>; "
> marketing@global.libreoffice.org" <marketing@global.libreoffice.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2012, 17:31
> > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] donation meter
> >
> > Tom, the number of members of TDF is not the same as the number of
> contributors to LibreOffice, and probably the two numbers are not even
> related. Don't mix apples and oranges.
> > Jean
> >
> > On 02/10/2012, at 18:19, Tom Davies <tomdavies04@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi :)
> > > I agree that TDF is growing fast but is tripling in size each year
> realistic??
> > > In the first year it started with 20 people and 1 release in one
> branch.  Here we are 2 years later with 'a few' more than 180 people and
> having gone through to the 4 branches with around 5-6 releases per branch
> (ie a few more than 9 releases).
> > > Regards from
> > > Tom :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P <webmaster@krackedpress.com>
> > > > To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2012, 16:03
> > > > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] donation meter
> > > >
> > > > On 10/02/2012 04:59 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> > > > > Le lundi 01 octobre 2012 à 09:55 +0200, Florian Effenberger a écrit :
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > our fundraising campaign officially starts today. Like last time, I'd
> > > > > > like to add a donation meter to our websites, so people can donate
> > > > > > towards a goal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am not a friend of unrealistic values, just to keep people donating
> > > > > > ("We want one million dollars"). However, since this time, the main
> goal
> > > > > > is to define our budget for 2013, and therefore determining the
> > > > > > community's resources for next year, I'd like to come up with a
> senseful
> > > > > > symbolic value. Comparing TDF with any other major free software
> > > > > > organization, our budget is rather low.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As an example: We have XY language projects, and each of them should
> > > > > > have a budget of Z, that makes XYZ € to raise.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Or: We have XY million downloads, and if we get 0,01 € per download,
> we
> > > > > > want to raise XYZ €.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyone has some nice numbers we can work with?
> > > > > I'd go for a total of 500K (max). This being said  I think the
> marketing
> > > > > list is somewhat unaware of the needed volumes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > >
> > > > > Charles.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Florian
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -- Florian Effenberger, Chairman of the Board (Vorstandsvorsitzender)
> > > > > > Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108
> > > > > > The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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> > > >
> > > > I do not know what the current yearly cost is, but:
> > > >
> > > >    Why not take the current hardware and Internet costs and triple it.
> > > >    Then add in the same for projected real marketing costs and see what
> > > >    that give you.
> > > >    Then take that figure and add in another 50%.
> > > >
> > > > That could give a more "realistic" figure for 2012 "donations needed"
> figure. After that you could increase it by another 20% to 50% for 2013.
> > > > Any figure that TDF asks for must have a realistic amount and can be
> justified with numbers for each line item for the current needs and the
> projected needs for TDF.  Otherwise, having a super large figure listed
> will be either a waste of time or worse for the marketing aspect of LO and
> its reputation.
> > > >
> >
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