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On Sunday 14 Nov 2010 16:19:34 David Nelson wrote:
Hi Graham, :-)

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 06:24, Graham Lauder <> wrote:
I'm sorry I'm having difficulty debating this in real time, my right arm
is still in plaster so it's a little hard to keep up, plaster off on
wednesday hopefully.  :)

Thanks for your thoughts. You seem to be managing fine. I'm sure we'll
be able to get the full benefit of your long experience once you can
type with two hands again. ;-)

David Nelson

I take it then, given that you haven't rebutted any of my points that you now 
agree with them, or are you simply of the school that ignores any opposing 
view to your own

in any case I will add a bit here, as I hit the send button a little too 
quickly last night:

One of the rules of entry could be that, if their work wins, entrants
should be willing to contribute to LibO/TDF in the long-term, and be
part of the process of developing and maintaining their material.

 You can't force people to contribute, you have to give them a reason.  Your
 thinking is old school corporate where people are competing for a check,
 the reason people work for FOSS projects is for personal satisfaction, fun 
and philosophy.  On occasion people contribute because their employer is 
either part of the project or sees value in contributing.  Unfortunately in 
the art part of the project the latter either rarely occurs or when it does 
(as it was in OOo) all the significant work was done without any community 
involvement.  If the Art project doesn't have the opportunity to contribute 
significantly then there is no satisfaction and people stay away.   Handing 
out that same work on a purely competition basis results in the same.

You say you want to get involved in Marketing, well in a FOSS project much of, 
if not the majority is aimed at contributors, it's about growing and 
strengthening the community, competitions are divisive, they work in a 
corporate space but not in a FOSS project. 


Graham Lauder, MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ Migration and training Consultant.

INGOTs Assessor Trainer
(International Grades in Open Technologies)

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