RE: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Re: Re: Untranslated strings in Labels and Business Cards dialog

Hi Cor,

Yes, I did do work on the label.xml file and I occasionally update the file with new label 
definitions (mostly after users report bugs that QA people kindly bring to my attention). 
Approx. 2 years ago I did a massive restructuring of the label definitions (there was a fundamental 
problem with the old definitions) and so had to check/redefine all 1700+ definitions. I did remove 
quite a lot of obsolete definitions, but had to be careful with that: obsolete doesn't mean that no 
users still use them (I have labels left from 30+ years ago).
Also, it is quite difficult (not to say impossible) to obtain lists of current labels with their 
size and position definitions. Generally, I have to download a Word template from which I then dig 
out the sizes and positions.
Also, there is a lot of necessary redundancy in the file. Take Avery, which uses different label 
numbers for the same labels, except for their colours (a label available in 6 colours has 6 entries 
in the file, because the user looks for a specific Avery number).

Adding new definitions is an easy hack, as the file contains explanations in the header about the 
entries.

Making the file language dependent would a lot of work; it might be better to use a separate list 
of locale descriptions (by means of string IDs) only. That way the label definitions can be 
maintained as part of the code (is it now) and the localisation goes the same as with the rest of 
LibreOffice (don't know the details, I just work on the code).

HTH,


Winfried

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Verzonden: woensdag 9 april 2014 09:08

Winfried,

Pls see the message below. Wasn't that something that you touched in the past?

regards,
Cor

Thomas Hackert wrote (01-04-14 19:35)
> Hello Dennis, *,
> On Dienstag, 1. April 2014 19:20 Dennis Roczek wrote:
> > Am 01.04.2014 18:25, schrieb Thomas Hackert:
> > [...]
> > > > It would be a good Easy Hack for a non-programmer, to download 
> > > > catalogs of label makers, and update label.xml -- remove obsoleted 
> > > > entries and add current entries that people can actually buy today.
> > >
> > > That may be an easy hack, but I think this would also be really time 
> > > consuming ... :( Would it be possible then to split these by country 
> > > / language and to provide them with the langpacks? Or would this be 
> > > impossible?
> >
> > Well actually there is an easy hack bug
> > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70357 which I'm working 
> > on (unknowing that this bug existed) since September 2013!
> > This is really a time consuming bug as I touched nearly evry page 
> > multiple times (by hand and with my bot)
>
> but that is wiki work, not downloading catalogs of all possible labels 
> and business cards producers around the world ... ;)
>
> > So lengthy easy hacks aren't a problem, I think. Better create a bug 
> > and if needed we can split if requested.
>
> Maybe next weekend. I will not have the time before, sorry ... :( Have 
> a nice evening Thomas.


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