Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: New language localization

Hi Michael,

On Monday, 2013-05-06 14:27:47 +0100, Michael Bauer wrote:

> 1) I realise Eike only asked for a bug to be filed (that in itself
> is hurdle #1 as it requires knowledge of what a bug is and how to
> file one by the way)

RFE bugs are the usual mean to get something into the code. Having taken
a bug helps the developer to list pending tasks / schedule / prioritize
/ create dependencies. A mail vanishes out of sight into the archive.

> 2) Eike referred to the Wiki page (presumably to give Kairaba
> additional information on requesting new languages)
> 3) I went and read said Wiki page and it struck me how confusing
> this seems to me and how scary it must be to someone who is new to
> localization and primarily a new translator and who googles
> "localizing LibreOffice" and comes across said page without knowing
> about this l10n mailing list, so that's hurdle #2

What's wrong about
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide/Adding_a_New_Language_or_Locale#Request_a_new_language.2Flocale_to_be_added
that more or less says "just request language foobar and if the above is
mumbo-jumbo to you the poor i18n developer will have to figure it out
anyway"?

> 4) I then posted whether that page should not have a big sign
> slapped across it saying "if this confuses you, just send us an
> email" (and foolishly in the same sentence suggested this *might*
> require a new list. That's clearly a lead balloon so let's not bring
> that up again)

It's a wiki, feel free to clarify or even rearrange the page but please
do not remove information.

> I just googled "translating LibreOffice" and actually this page
> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/localizers/ (which is a lot
> more readable... I'd be tempted to add a small diagram though) does
> come out on top so perhaps it was just an unfortunate
> misunderstanding on my behlaf that, having followed Eike's link, I
> assume that was the main landing page for potential localizers.

It is, and the link I gave is the page about the technical mumbo-jumbo.
My reply was to a mail that was cross-posted on the developer list,
I assumed a reference to a wiki page that includes a link to file a bug
was not out of scope for the original poster. After all, he already gave
the information that page talks about.

> So I guess it narrows my concerns down to a) is that a good
> reference page to give to new people whose IT skills are an unknown
> and b) if bugfiling should really be done by the newbie?

If not, then the newbie would certainly find a merciful soul on this
l10n list here who would help him with that, wouldn't he?

  Eike

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