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2013.03.11. 0:23 keltezéssel, Christian Lohmaier írta:
Hi Jelle, *,

On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Jelle Mulder <> wrote:
and probably the odd 10% of all world population that can consider
themselves immigrants.
I disagree here. Why do they use a OS they cannot understand in the
first place? Either they already own a computer, then they should just
keep using that, or they have to buy one, but then they could just buy
a version in the language they understand.

And if you're there to work - how are you supposed to actually do
work, when you cannot understand the OS - and why let people install
you software there? So to me it still is a rare corner-case.
In Romania, the 1st localized windows was windows XP (and not natively localized, peoples need to install additonal language pack), and the windows xp localization is not very good (40%+ of romanina people use windows xp), the peoples don't understand, but learned the english expressions, and usually don't like the localized version, because don't understand the localized expressions (he understand the words, but can't connect the word with what is meaning). For this reason 50%+ of windows instalation is in english, and usually this peoples don't change your regional settings to romanian (this enough to switch the LO installer to romanian).

And another reason why people are using English Windows, even though it does not speak English, is that in romania 50%+ (in private area 70%+) of windows installations is illegal (illegal windows = english windows), and in this case peoples disable windows update, the download source of the localizations.

Oh,.. sure,.. I could plug some Linux distro on it and all my trouble would
be over. However, that would exclude me from communicatng with my collegues
that run all those nifty malware tools like QQ (some IM) and the like. Nor
do Linux distro's support Chinese all that well for those that cannot read
Chinese. It exists, but alas,.. the info is all in Chinese and not all of it
is in HTML format that I might run through Google Chrome to translate it.
I can't follow you on the Linux point here. If you don't understand
any chinese, why install chinese linux? If you cannot read chinese,
how would you write chinese? (I can only assume you mean how to
install a IME to write chinese is not documented in "non-chinese"
properly - but then again - chicken and egg problem - just install
ibus with a chinese IME and you're done - the times where installing
an IME was painfull are long over, thanks to all Linux-distros using
UTF-8 by default now.

Come on people,.. if this is the UI/UX department, this issue is right at
it's place as this is UI/UX at it's purest.
Sorry, but you wrote to the l10n list - at least that is what I have
been replying to..

File a bug an indeed UX would be the correct place to lay out what it
should offer.



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