Re: [libreoffice-design] Bundled english fonts

On 10/12/2016 06:12 AM, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
> I think we need 1 mono font.  There are a lot of uses for a mono font
> ["normal", bold, italic, bold italic].  I have several, including a Unicode
> and a "typewriter" version.  Liberation font set has a full set of Mono
> fonts/styles, or at least with my font selection.

We presently have 3 mono fonts - DejaVu Mono, Liberation Mono, and 
Source Code Pro. I've suggested we remove DejaVu, we need the Liberation 
one for ms compatibility with Courier New, and i'm assuming we added 
Source Code Pro as a modern looking mono font in 4.0. I've suggested 
adding the Noto family of fonts which includes a mono font, so we would 
still have 3 mono fonts if we added the one from Noto.

> For some people, for Windows OS, many packages/apps install fonts that
> are bundled with the installer.  I know that there are a lot of fonts
> installed with the OS install.  For Linux users, I think that the
> "ttf-mscorefonts-installer" should be bundled with LO.  That way at
> least the Linux version will have access to the same fonts as the
> Windows version.

ttf-mscorefonts-installer is set as a recommended dependent package for 
libreoffice on debian/ubuntu, while fedora does not have such a package 
in its repo. ttf-mscorefonts-installer fonts couldnt be bundled with TDF 
builds as i dont think the license allows for redistribution.

> Am I correct that some of the LO documents used Vegur fonts? Whatever
> fonts are used in the LO documentations should be included in the
> installer bundle.

Dont think documentation fonts need to be included in the installer.

> Currently, I have 189 font files installed on my default laptop.  I have
> had over 400 font files installed in my Ubuntu install, which I reduced
> to the current level only a few months ago.  I have over 200,000 font
> files in my collection of fonts, including an early 2000 version of the
> Adobe font set.  Except the Adobe set, all of the fonts are [or were]
> free fonts.

I remember on windows that installing to many fonts would slow down the 
system. :D But we definitely need to implement ways to shrink the 
displayed list of font in the font combobox, like the ideas in tdf#88416 
and tdf#91130.

> To be honest, to help users, maybe LO could suggest different fonts in
> the online documentation or even have a link to a .zip file with the
> suggested fonts/files listed in the documentation for installing LO.
> Having a listing of the popular free fonts and where you could find
> them, may be a good idea.  Also for new Linux users, give the
> "ttf-mscorefonts-installer" package name.  It was several years using
> Ubuntu before I heard about the "ms core fonts" package.

As we bundle substitute fonts, there isnt a need to promote the 
installation of the MS fonts.

> So, in my opinion, we should have a list of popular free fonts in the
> online install tutorials or even a new page created specifically for the
> font list[s]. Maybe people could create list of "paid" fonts with a list
> of the best free fonts that can be used instead of the paid versions.
> There are lists online in various places that discuss the fonts that are
> installed with different versions of Windows, Mac, and Linux, and then
> list the free replacements.  If we could have a good list of free fonts
> and/or free replacement fonts that the LO users think would be a good
> for users to download and try. Just within this thread there is a lot of
> suggestions for what fonts are better than others.

We are creating a list of our default fonts on the wiki and the wiki 
page could be expanded to include a list of recommended open source 
fonts for document creation.

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Fonts

> Discussions like this email thread are a good start.  Maybe we could
> start a thread for a list of the better free fonts and what they can be
> used as replacements for the "popular" paid fonts.  Actually, a couple
> of font names, listed in this thread, are new to me.  Since I have been
> using Windows since Win95 [or earlier].  Linux, on and off, since late
> 90's and Ubuntu as my default OS since version 9.xx.

Would assume an online spreadsheet would be the better choice than an 
email thread, as everyone can contribute and comment to it.

Regards,
Yousuf

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