Re: [libreoffice-design] Bundled english fonts

Hi Yussuf, all,

I'd like to help with this. I have already some opinions about it. I think
that there are some of the fonts that are already bundled with LibreOffice
that could be removed.

I would for the approach of "2 serif fonts, 2 sans serif font, 1 or none
mono". Adding more and not using them in templates we provide is just
adding more bricks to the big wall of typefaces.

I really like Open Sans, but you already bundle Source Sans Pro and in more
weights: Open Sans has a light, bold and extrabold versions and they were
omitted. Also, there are at least 2 Impress templates based on Source Sans
Pro. Thus, the 2 sans would be Liberation Sans & Source Sans Pro.

I will explain why not Carlito: I'm against Carlito in its current state:
there are some bugs regarding its transformation from Lato, which result in
weird rendering. *And it's not because of the hinting* but because of the
squeezing of Lato to match Calibri. Please, see these 2 screenshots:
http://s2.subirimagenes.com/imagen/9647191carloto-vs-lato-2.png
http://s2.subirimagenes.com/imagen/9647190carloto-vs-lato-3.png
It's the only problem I have found by

Also, Caladea doesn't show this errors but it *lacks of greek and cyrilic
support* (at least the versions bundled with LibreOffice). I emphasize this
because the opposite is stated in the Docs sheet)

Cambria vs. Caladea character table (from FontForge):
                                                Rank
Cambria                    Caladea
Non-unicode glyphs
1726/0                     667/0
Non-assigned code points      u0000u11fff       2/0
1/0
Basic multilanguage plane:    U0000-uffff       611/60930
417/60930
Latin suplement 1               u00a0-u00ff       94/96
96/96
Extended latin B                 u0180-u024f       9/208
8/208
pace modifiers characters:    u02b0-u02ff     8/80                      9/85
Combined diacritic marks:     u0300-u036f     17/112                    none
Greek                                  u0370-u03ff
75/134                    none
Cyrillic                                    u0400-u04ff
104/256                    none
Additional extended latin    u1e00-u1eff        8/256
12/256
General punctuation         u2000-u206f      18/107
23/107
Super and subscripts          u2070-u209f      28/42
1/42
Money symbols                 u20a0-u20cf
1/26                      4/26
Numeric symbols               u2150-u218f        none
4/58
Arrows                                        u2190-u21ff
none                   7/112
Geometric                          u25a0-u25ff
8/96                       none
Miscelanic symbols            u2600-u267f
none                       3/127
Private use area                   ue000-uf8ff
none                       1/6400
Latin ligatures                       ufb00-ufb06
5/7                         2/7

So... it's a replacement for latin alphabets only.

Furthermore, I don't see the point of bundling Gentium Basic _and_ Gentium
Book Basic. Besides, *it doesn't count with Greek nor Cyrillic support*...
or at least, the versions bundled with LibO up to 5.3 alpha. Again, the
opposite is stated in the Docs sheet.

Then, between PT Serif and Linux Libertine, the last has a much more wider
character support. So, in my opinion Liberation Serif and Linux Libertine
should be enough for serif typefaces.

These are my 2 ¢

Best Regards,

Francisco


2016-10-09 9:30 GMT-03:00 Yousuf Philips <ypharis@gmail.com>:

> Hi All,
>
> So i'm going through the english fonts we currently bundle and want to
> evaluate whether some of them can be removed as well as suggest additional
> inclusions. All are welcome to join in on the fun. :D
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hHMR8QDVExlmc2iumQMA
> b5bW6XvoY_4uOB38TQYY6aw/edit?usp=sharing
>
> The details from this google sheet will eventually make its way into the
> wiki to replace the current worthless list.
>
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Fonts
>
> Regards,
> Yousuf
>
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