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Hi Christoph,

2012/5/31 Christoph Noack <christoph@dogmatux.com>

Hi Alex, all!

Am Mittwoch, den 30.05.2012, 16:42 +0200 schrieb Alexander Wilms:
actually, the save icon in the top toolbar should be enough, don't you
think? It's greyed out if there's nothing to save and makes the
indicator superfluous.

Well, that was the case some versions ago - then the current behavior
(save icon is always active) has been introduced. Reason: There has been
customer feedback targeted at the Sun OOo UX Team that people wish to
press that button at any time - just to be sure that the document is
really saved. So here its not about real logic, but about people to feel
"safe".


This is only a setting, and it's disabled by default (at least on my
machine).
Out of interest, could you point me to the feedback you mentioned?


Concerning using of the asterisk in the title bar - also that issue has
been discussed from time to time. From my (personal) point-of-view, this
indicator does not reveal its meaning clearly. Almost the same is true
for the current status bar indicator - but of course it's just there
because of the cool TDF symbolism ;-)


So, finally, if there is a need to further cleanup the status bar, then
I'd propose to go with "(unsaved)" instead of the asterisk for the title
bar. Example for unsaved changes:
Strategy Document (unsaved) - LibreOffice Writer


Fine with me, as long as it only happens if the "allow to save document
even when the document is not modified" setting is on.


Of course there are plenty of alternatives - introducing stuff like a
proxy icons (similar to Mac OS X), or extending the "Save Icon" by an
own indicator. Or ...


To be honest, I feel like this is too much complication to satisfy a very
small fraction of the userbase, at a cost to the general userbase. Every
other application I know disables "Save" when the file is saved, and
there's not any consumer backlash there.

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